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Aug 12, '05, 6:21 am
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Rescate back on at WYD
Jimmy Akin reported this on his blog. Rescate says they were quoted out of context and have apologized if anyone was offended. And they are back. While that seems acceptable, I still have to wonder why they couldn't find a good Catholic group.
If someone has already talked about this new development, please link me.
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Aug 12, '05, 7:39 am
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Re: Rescate back on at WYD
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Originally Posted by Scott Waddell
Jimmy Akin reported this on his blog. Rescate says they were quoted out of context and have apologized if anyone was offended. And they are back. While that seems acceptable, I still have to wonder why they couldn't find a good Catholic group.
If someone has already talked about this new development, please link me.
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I linked you in the WYD Forum.  It will probably get moved there anyway. Thanks for the heads up.
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Aug 12, '05, 8:28 am
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Re: Rescate back on at WYD
This is F*****g b******t
Taken out of context my a**.
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Personally, we don’t think the Pope is God’s representative on earth.
...the Pope’s strength is more political than spiritual.
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It was never our intention to disqualify or ridicule the Pope, nor discredit his authority as the maximum authority of the Roman Catholic Church
We respect Benedict XVI as the maximum spiritual leader of the Catholic Church
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I think it's all a publicity stunt. I can't believe this is haappening.
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Aug 12, '05, 12:38 pm
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Re: Rescate back on at WYD
"Personally, we don’t think the Pope is God’s representative on earth. "
It doesn't matter if the quote was taken out of context. It means exactly what it said.
Dang, are Catholics so desperate for this non-Catholic band that they just have to have them for WYD! What a sorry lot!
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Aug 12, '05, 2:54 pm
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Re: Rescate back on at WYD
It is about the same level of moral conciousness that the Vatican has shown in most of their invitations to musical groups.
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Aug 14, '05, 12:36 pm
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Re: Rescate back on at WYD
This is depressing, it´s our cross
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Aug 14, '05, 9:57 pm
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Re: Rescate back on at WYD
Just another alert to everyone: The petition is still up and running!
Anti-Pope band Rescate is back again at WYD. Keep signing the petition!
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Aug 14, '05, 11:24 pm
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Re: Rescate back on at WYD
I believe this apology stems from nothing more than the fact that Rescate just wants to play the Gig. They just underestimated the impact their original statements were to have when they made them.
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Aug 15, '05, 6:39 am
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Re: Rescate back on at WYD
Rescate recanted. They stated their respect for orthodox Catholic doctrine. That's enough. Now it is for the Holy Spirit to work a miracle in the heart of this Protestant gospel rock band.
The band leader struck me as someone who does not think very carefully about what he is saying. Sort of like a figure skater in front of the cameras after a competition. They are young.
The event at which Rescate will be performing is ecumenical. Let us remember what is on the table here: Martin Luther and his legacy. Nothing short of healing a schism in the country where the Reformation was born.
Now, yes, Rescate really needed this gig. But that is our leverage over them. Perhaps, as Protestants, they have all the usual prejudices plus those gained by the hardships of the Church in Latinamerica. But let us remember that their presence at WYD will be an encounter -- an overwhelming encounter.
The conversion of Rescate will bring millions of lapsed Latinamerican Catholics back home to the Church. I do not know how to create a public profile for this idea: something like COME HOME RESCATE! Anybody got any better ideas?
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Aug 15, '05, 6:12 pm
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Re: Rescate back on at WYD
I don't think Rescate's statement was consistent with recanting. They only said that their comments were "taken out of context", not "we were wrong". They expressed "consternation", not remorse.Therefore I do not believe that they retracted their statements.
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Aug 16, '05, 12:33 am
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Re: Rescate back on at WYD
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Originally Posted by Fidei Defensor
I don't think Rescate's statement was consistent with recanting. They only said that their comments were "taken out of context", not "we were wrong". They expressed "consternation", not remorse.Therefore I do not believe that they retracted their statements.
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I don´t believe either, but we have to be very ecumenical and trust. Difficult but christian.
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Aug 16, '05, 6:52 am
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Re: Rescate back on at WYD
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Originally Posted by Fidei Defensor
I don't think Rescate's statement was consistent with recanting. They only said that their comments were "taken out of context", not "we were wrong". They expressed "consternation", not remorse.Therefore I do not believe that they retracted their statements.
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Yes, they also said they had been badly translated. And frankly some of us read their offending comments in the original Spanish. Nevertheless their 'recanting' included a statement recognizing the Pope. I do hope they experience a conversion at WYD. If not, there are hundreds of thousands of people there who are perfectly able to let loose with a rousing 'opinion' of their music in no uncertain terms.
I'll write a letter to WYD again and see what they have to say.
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Aug 18, '05, 12:11 pm
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Re: Rescate back on at WYD
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Yes, they also said they had been badly translated. And frankly some of us read their offending comments in the original Spanish. Nevertheless their 'recanting' included a statement recognizing the Pope.
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I posted the original statement in Spanish and its rendering in English at Akin's blog: there's no margin for a translation error, those who understand Spanish can correct me.
All they did was to recognize the Pope as leader of the Catholic Church, which does not rescind their comment that the Pope is merely a political leader and that he's not the Vicar of Christ. After all they said, their previous statements still stand.
May God give us all humility of heart.
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Aug 25, '05, 3:12 pm
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Re: Rescate back on at WYD
Did the band eventually play at WYD? If so, how did it go?
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Aug 25, '05, 4:17 pm
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Re: Rescate back on at WYD
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Did the band eventually play at WYD? If so, how did it go?
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Glad you asked...I don't know. Anyone else?
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