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Old Jul 7, '12, 6:31 pm
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Default Forgive me, Father, for I have sinnedif I have patronised these companies

Found a shocking list of companies that support the murder of innocent babies (i.e. the 'Planned Parenthood Foundation'):

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2005/14/Revenue_1.html

Agnus dei, qui tollis peccata, miserere nobis.

STOP SUPPORTING THE MURDER OF INNOCENTS!

BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT!
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Old Jul 7, '12, 7:40 pm
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Default Re: Forgive me, Father, for I have sinnedif I have patronised these companies

sorry,i don't see a list of companies in that link contributing to p.p.
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Old Jul 7, '12, 8:12 pm
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Default Re: Forgive me, Father, for I have sinnedif I have patronised these companies

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sorry,i don't see a list of companies in that link contributing to p.p.
Ditto.
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Old Jul 7, '12, 10:27 pm
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Found a shocking list of companies that support the murder of innocent babies (i.e. the 'Planned Parenthood Foundation'):

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2005/14/Revenue_1.html

Agnus dei, qui tollis peccata, miserere nobis.

STOP SUPPORTING THE MURDER OF INNOCENTS!

BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT!
I was prepared to be shocked, but the list is not shocking enough for a single exclamation point, let alone four of them and ALL CAPS. It's just a list of non-profit organizations, not companies (as in businesses?). Planned Parenthood is listed, so is Catholic Charities. In fairness, I clicked through the PP link which took me to another page that also failed to link to such companies. So . . . What's the point, aquohn?
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Old Jul 8, '12, 12:00 am
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Default Re: Forgive me, Father, for I have sinnedif I have patronised these companies

Oh whoops, wrong link.

Dammit, my carelessness pervades all aspects of my life.

http://www.newsinfaith.com/?p=1262
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Old Jul 8, '12, 12:06 am
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Default Re: Forgive me, Father, for I have sinnedif I have patronised these companies

Please let me know when you find somewhere we can shop.
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Old Jul 8, '12, 1:36 am
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Please let me know when you find somewhere we can shop.
Sorry, more bad news.

100% Gay Companies: http://americansfortruth.com/2008/07...-corporations/

Deus miserere nobis, even Disney is on the list.

Pie Jesu Domine, dona eis requiem.
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Old Jul 8, '12, 8:20 am
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Default Re: Forgive me, Father, for I have sinnedif I have patronised these companies

So, what's the plan?

How do you think we can effect a change in relation to these companies?


I'm not in a position to farm and be completely selfsufficient and live off of the land. I'm going to have to keep purchasing from these "evil" companies. If I am unable to boycott every store, manufacturer and insurance provider that doesn't have the same moral compass as the Catholic Church and its a bad thing, I'm going to need the Church to open up a grocery store.

In no way have I sinned by shopping at these stores. If you think I have, feel free to come to Louisiana and you can take me on a shopping trip to more reputable businesses.
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Old Jul 8, '12, 1:14 pm
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I agree with the poster above. This is a huge laundry list of large companies that control the means of production over several chains of goods and services. Trying to avoid them would be a nightmare.

Also, I don't think there is anything in Church teaching that would say purchasing from these companies would be sinful. If so, then, as the poster above says, the Church would have to open its own grocery store, as well as a bank, drug store, liquor store, convenient store, laundromat, building company, as well as set up its own government with taxing authority, zoning laws, army and law enforcement...whoops...the last few things would be illegal.

The reach is just way too vast and almost impossible to get around.
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Old Jul 8, '12, 1:43 pm
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Oh whoops, wrong link.

Dammit, my carelessness pervades all aspects of my life.

http://www.newsinfaith.com/?p=1262
You can say that again.
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Old Jul 10, '12, 9:41 am
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Understand the difference between remote cooperation versus direct cooperation with evil.

We are NEVER to directly cooperate with evil.

Remote cooperation is what happens when we buy products from these corporations who support evil. If our intention is to buy a product because of the product, then that's remote cooperation. If our intent is to have our money go to PP, then that is beyond remote cooperation.

All the well known names have given money to causes which are immoral, like PP and homosexual groups.

The only way to deal with them is not to boycott, because we'd not be able to buy ANYTHING. We'd have to move to a monastery far away and grow our own food. Maybe not. We'd still have to buy seeds and pesticides from the companies that support evil.

No.

The proper thing to do is to protest the companies one by one. Target supports something evil? OK, protest their headquarters. Letter writing campaign. Post on their facebook page. e-mail campaign. Talk about how you'll take your money to Wal Mart or other stores if they don't drop their support of PP.
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Old Jul 10, '12, 9:49 am
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Default Re: Forgive me, Father, for I have sinnedif I have patronised these companies

I support all consumers to boycott these companies. It is the business for them to make a profit, not promote the murder of babies.
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Old Jul 10, '12, 9:52 am
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Understand the difference between remote cooperation versus direct cooperation with evil.

We are NEVER to directly cooperate with evil.

Remote cooperation is what happens when we buy products from these corporations who support evil. If our intention is to buy a product because of the product, then that's remote cooperation. If our intent is to have our money go to PP, then that is beyond remote cooperation.

All the well known names have given money to causes which are immoral, like PP and homosexual groups.

The only way to deal with them is not to boycott, because we'd not be able to buy ANYTHING. We'd have to move to a monastery far away and grow our own food. Maybe not. We'd still have to buy seeds and pesticides from the companies that support evil.

No.

The proper thing to do is to protest the companies one by one. Target supports something evil? OK, protest their headquarters. Letter writing campaign. Post on their facebook page. e-mail campaign. Talk about how you'll take your money to Wal Mart or other stores if they don't drop their support of PP.
Yes, but if that does not work, Hit 'em were it really hurts...their wallets

If a corporations sales decline because they support murder, then they will have no choice but to give up the murder support or risk losing everything.
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Old Jul 10, '12, 10:02 am
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If a corporations sales decline because they support murder, then they will have no choice but to give up the murder support or risk losing everything.
Doing so without notifying them why they're losing sales will do nothing. They won't put two and two together.

That's why each company is to be protested one by one.
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Old Jul 10, '12, 4:07 pm
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Doing so without notifying them why they're losing sales will do nothing. They won't put two and two together.

That's why each company is to be protested one by one.
I agree
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