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Jul 15, '12, 9:53 am
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Dinosaurs and Genesis
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Jul 15, '12, 10:05 am
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Re: Dinosaurs and Genesis
As I understand it the creation story as told in genesis is not necessarily to be taken literally.
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Jul 15, '12, 11:32 am
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Re: Dinosaurs and Genesis
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As I understand it the creation story as told in genesis is not necessarily to be taken literally.
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Yep, it's to be read in the how it is written. Poetry, although not literal can (obviously) hold truth, as can saga, myth etc. The modern scientific mind finds reading the bible difficult. Living in a post-modern culture doesn't help either.
The same reason a police detective doesn't read a Stephen King novel and proceed to open a new murder investigation. What needs to be looked for is what truth the author is trying to convey. 
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Jul 15, '12, 11:46 am
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Re: Dinosaurs and Genesis
Because dinosaurs aren't in the Bible doesn't mean they didn't exist. haha, tell him it's the bible not an Encyclopedia Britannica!!
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Jul 15, '12, 11:54 am
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Re: Dinosaurs and Genesis
Because dinosaurs aren't in the Bible doesn't mean they didn't exist. haha, tell him it's the bible not an Encyclopedia Britannica!!
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Jul 15, '12, 12:17 pm
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Re: Dinosaurs and Genesis
The Bible is not a science textbook or a history book. It's meant for revealing truths about God, not learning about history. 
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Jul 15, '12, 12:25 pm
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Re: Dinosaurs and Genesis
Dinosaur is a term coined in the 1820's. Of course it is not in the Bible.
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IDvolution - God "breathed" the super language of DNA into the "kinds" in the creative act. Buffalo
"We are not some casual and meaningless product of evolution. Each of us is a thought of God."
“Science presupposes the trustworthy, intelligent structure of matter, the ‘design’ of creation.”
"A man of conscience, is one who never acquires tolerance, well- being, success, public standing, and approval on the part of prevailing opinion, at the expense of truth."
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Jul 15, '12, 12:29 pm
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Re: Dinosaurs and Genesis
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Since God created science, it stands to reason He cannot contradict Himself. If something is proved scientifically, then that is the way it is. Dinosaurs existed millions of years before humans--that has been proven. That in no way contradicts the idea that God created everything, including humans, and God's timeline does not correspond to ours. He's not on our schedule, and we should not be attempting to put Him there. Why He created Dinosaurs millions of years before humans is not really our business. The Book of Genesis only says what God did--it does not attempt to explain how He did it. And you are correct--the world was not created for us first--God created the animals first, that is clear in Scripture. We were created last and are made in His own image and likeness.
The Catholic Church does not insist on a literal interpretation of the Book of Genesis. You are free to believe that of course, but all it asks you to believe is that God created everything--it does not require an explanation of when or how He did it. There should be no confusion--God and science cannot contradict each other, as God is the author of science.
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Jul 15, '12, 12:32 pm
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Re: Dinosaurs and Genesis
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Dinosaurs existed millions of years before humans--that has been proven. .
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Careful here...... Soft tissue has been found and carbon dating of bones came back at 20000 to 30000 years old......
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IDvolution - God "breathed" the super language of DNA into the "kinds" in the creative act. Buffalo
"We are not some casual and meaningless product of evolution. Each of us is a thought of God."
“Science presupposes the trustworthy, intelligent structure of matter, the ‘design’ of creation.”
"A man of conscience, is one who never acquires tolerance, well- being, success, public standing, and approval on the part of prevailing opinion, at the expense of truth."
Pope Benedict XVI
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Jul 15, '12, 12:46 pm
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Re: Dinosaurs and Genesis
Well dinosaur fossil round here (The Badlands of Alberta) date back 65 million years and longer.
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Jul 15, '12, 12:55 pm
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Re: Dinosaurs and Genesis
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Well dinosaur fossil round here (The Badlands of Alberta) date back 65 million years and longer.
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That is what they say. Either that dating is wrong or soft tissue survives that long. What is your claim?
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IDvolution - God "breathed" the super language of DNA into the "kinds" in the creative act. Buffalo
"We are not some casual and meaningless product of evolution. Each of us is a thought of God."
“Science presupposes the trustworthy, intelligent structure of matter, the ‘design’ of creation.”
"A man of conscience, is one who never acquires tolerance, well- being, success, public standing, and approval on the part of prevailing opinion, at the expense of truth."
Pope Benedict XVI
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Jul 15, '12, 12:58 pm
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Re: Dinosaurs and Genesis
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Originally Posted by CB Catholic
Since God created science, it stands to reason He cannot contradict Himself. If something is proved scientifically, then that is the way it is. Dinosaurs existed millions of years before humans--that has been proven. That in no way contradicts the idea that God created everything, including humans, and God's timeline does not correspond to ours. He's not on our schedule, and we should not be attempting to put Him there. Why He created Dinosaurs millions of years before humans is not really our business. The Book of Genesis only says what God did--it does not attempt to explain how He did it. And you are correct--the world was not created for us first--God created the animals first, that is clear in Scripture. We were created last and are made in His own image and likeness.
The Catholic Church does not insist on a literal interpretation of the Book of Genesis. You are free to believe that of course, but all it asks you to believe is that God created everything--it does not require an explanation of when or how He did it. There should be no confusion--God and science cannot contradict each other, as God is the author of science.
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Amen! I've been "preaching" something similar for years.
I am truly in awe of all the elaborate tools God used to create his earth. Like many scientific minds before me, the discoveries of science only stengthen my belief in the Church as they simply demonstrate the power of God.
Here is a thought for you case: consider God's design in peppering the planet with Meteors 65 mya, which opened the door for mammals, and in turn, us, to thrive. When you dig into all the details of the earths past, you begin to see a brilliant plan emerging. Many scientists often comment on how it took many, perfect "coincidences" for us Humans to come about and survive. Those "coincidences" defy odds. Those "coincidences" are God.
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Jul 15, '12, 1:36 pm
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Re: Dinosaurs and Genesis
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That is what they say. Either that dating is wrong or soft tissue survives that long. What is your claim?
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I claim the scientists know what they are doing, and that their fossils are 65 million years old or older.
As an old Franciscan priest and Doctor of Theology told me many times: Christ died to take away our sins not our brains!
St. Thomas Aquinas also told us that God writes in two books - scripture and nature - and they don't contradict each other.
I also believe that godless atheists can hit on the Truth since the universe is created by God.
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Re: Dinosaurs and Genesis
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So you believe that God created huge man-eating dinosaurs but didn't create Adam and Eve?
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Jul 15, '12, 1:42 pm
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Re: Dinosaurs and Genesis
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That is what they say. Either that dating is wrong or soft tissue survives that long. What is your claim?
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 One little questine: Why would God, Who has all of eteraty, jam the history of the earth in less then 25,000 years or would He, just as likely, have the earth's history at 4.5 billion years and have the dinosourses live 65 million years ago? Or have soft tissue survive that long, just to see what we would thing of it?   
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