Witnesses tell FBI that George Zimmerman is no racist

**rlg94086** · #1 Jul 15, '12, 8:03 pm

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/12/justic...html?hpt=hp_t2
(CNN) -- George Zimmerman, charged with second-degree murder in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, had a "little hero complex" but was not a racist, a Sanford, Florida, homicide investigator told federal agents, according to reports released Thursday.

In an interview with FBI agents in March, investigator Chris Serino told authorities he "believed that Zimmerman's actions were not based on Martin's skin color, rather based on his attire, the total circumstances of the encounter and the previous burglary suspects in the community," according to an FBI report.

The reports and other information in the case against Zimmerman were released Thursday by Special Prosecutor Angela Corey to Zimmerman's attorney.

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In his interview, Serino explained to the FBI agents that African-American gangs in the community "typically dressed in black and wore hoodies," the report said.

"Serino believes that when Zimmerman saw Martin in a hoody (sic), Zimmerman took it upon himself to view Martin as acting suspicious," the report said. "Serino described Zimmerman as overzealous and as having 'a little hero complex,' but not as a racist. Serino explained that on numerous occasions he asked Zimmerman specifically if he followed Martin based on his skin color and Zimmerman never admitted to this fact."

austenbosten · #2 Jul 15, '12, 9:37 pm

He's a racist, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and MSNBC told me so.

Crescentinus · #3 Jul 15, '12, 9:38 pm

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Originally Posted by austenbosten

He's a racist, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and MSNBC told me so.

**JimG** · #4 Jul 15, '12, 9:50 pm

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Originally Posted by austenbosten

He's a racist, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and MSNBC told me so.

The trouble with cable news--or really any news--now, is that stories are never given time to develop. Everyone must have an opinion within 5 minutes of an event.

Before television, when newspapers were paramount, news at least had time to develop. Reporters could spend some time on developing a story, rather than pushing the 2 minute talking points over and over again.

When cable news networks first came on the scene, I thought,"great, now they will have the time to develop news in a lot more depth, and they'll have time to cover a lot more news! Silly me.

austenbosten · #5 Jul 15, '12, 10:01 pm

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Originally Posted by JimG

The trouble with cable news--or really any news--now, is that stories are never given time to develop. Everyone must have an opinion within 5 minutes of an event.

Before television, when newspapers were paramount, news at least had time to develop. Reporters could spend some time on developing a story, rather than pushing the 2 minute talking points over and over again.

When cable news networks first came on the scene, I thought,"great, now they will have the time to develop news in a lot more depth, and they'll have time to cover a lot more news! Silly me.

I agree, even though I'm a Fox News fan, whenever something like this comes up; I'm always talking to the TV screen saying

"Shut up, Shut up, Shut Up!"

I agree that it's important to be up-to-date with the news when you are a 24/7 news station; but give it at least a couple of days before you spout off the comentary...just report the facts.

**rlg94086** · #6 Jul 15, '12, 10:03 pm

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Originally Posted by JimG

The trouble with cable news--or really any news--now, is that stories are never given time to develop. Everyone must have an opinion within 5 minutes of an event.

Before television, when newspapers were paramount, news at least had time to develop. Reporters could spend some time on developing a story, rather than pushing the 2 minute talking points over and over again.

When cable news networks first came on the scene, I thought,"great, now they will have the time to develop news in a lot more depth, and they'll have time to cover a lot more news! Silly me.

Exactly. I'm pretty certain that approximately 99.32% of the people crying "racist!" in this case assumed Zimmerman was white. Once they learned he is Hispanic, it was too late to back off....

austenbosten · #7 Jul 15, '12, 10:05 pm

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Exactly. I'm pretty certain that approximately 99.32% of the people crying "racist!" in this case assumed Zimmerman was white. Once they learned he is Hispanic, it was too late to back off....

I dunno some of the Leftists I talk to, still think he's white. Remember when the DCM coined the term White Hispanic?

**rlg94086** · #8 Jul 15, '12, 10:11 pm

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I dunno some of the Leftists I talk to, still think he's white. Remember when the DCM coined the term White Hispanic?

Well, it is his white half that possesses all of the bad traits, so obviously he favors that half and is therefore a White Hispanic. If he had no bad traits and/or was the victim, he would just be Hispanic. That's how it works. I'm sure if Tiger Woods had turned out to be a terrible golfer, people would claim he's Asian.

psr13 · #9 Jul 16, '12, 12:26 am

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I dunno some of the Leftists I talk to, still think he's white. Remember when the DCM coined the term White Hispanic?

Haha. I just showed hubby his picture and asked what color he is. His answer was, "Indian." No one who saw him would think he's white.

**JharekCarnelian** · #10 Jul 16, '12, 5:47 am

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I dunno some of the Leftists I talk to, still think he's white. Remember when the DCM coined the term White Hispanic?

Yep like meself as I'm one quarter Spanish and three quarters Irish. This gent may or may not be a racist and the points about media usage of buzz words and 'quick fix' style stories concentrating on style and not substance are very true indeed. However, racism is not simply a white or black problem and I've seen racist behaviour from nearly every human group I can think of. For example the area of London I live in has a long established West Indian community and a newer African community and there are at times significant prejudices between the two groups with Africans been regarded as sly and underhand by West Indians and African regarding them in turn as been rebellious and undisciplined. Conversely many west Indians will take pride in their African ancestry, often while displaying these outlooks. Just to show how awkward and complex such attitudes are. We all have our prejudices about other nations or people at some level when we get down to it. What exactly happened in this case though has been speculated on in a heated fashion that was not helpful.

austenbosten · #11 Jul 16, '12, 6:47 am

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Yep like meself as I'm one quarter Spanish and three quarters Irish. This gent may or may not be a racist and the points about media usage of buzz words and 'quick fix' style stories concentrating on style and not substance are very true indeed. However, racism is not simply a white or black problem and I've seen racist behaviour from nearly every human group I can think of. For example the area of London I live in has a long established West Indian community and a newer African community and there are at times significant prejudices between the two groups with Africans been regarded as sly and underhand by West Indians and African regarding them in turn as been rebellious and undisciplined. Conversely many west Indians will take pride in their African ancestry, often while displaying these outlooks. Just to show how awkward and complex such attitudes are. We all have our prejudices about other nations or people at some level when we get down to it. What exactly happened in this case though has been speculated on in a heated fashion that was not helpful.

Oh I agree that racism is not just a B&W issue. Blacks and Koreans hate each other in LA. I'm just annoyed by the term White Hispanic because the word "white" has to be present in the Leftist media in order to make GZ a racist...all the while they get Al Sharpton's take. Zimmerman is Hispanic and he considers himself so, there are such thing as racist hispanics (not saying GZ is racist, I don't know and frankly don't care) but the Leftist media can't say it....though they can call a half-white, half-black President African-American.

scipio337 · #12 Jul 16, '12, 6:47 am

I would say the biggest development in this case (since the ban) for was the charges of Murder 2.

I have no idea how this prosecutor is going to prove anything outside of involuntary manslaughter.

2 families have been destroyed, and I pray they receive peace, regardless of how this case turns out.

Scott_Lafrance · #13 Jul 16, '12, 7:59 am

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I would say the biggest development in this case (since the ban) for was the charges of Murder 2.

I have no idea how this prosecutor is going to prove anything outside of involuntary manslaughter.

2 families have been destroyed, and I pray they receive peace, regardless of how this case turns out.

Alan Dersowitz has lambasted the prosecutor for lying in the charging statement, not fully disclosing evidence, and not even making the case that this should be murder 2.

SamH · #14 Jul 16, '12, 8:03 am

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Alan Dersowitz has lambasted the prosecutor for lying in the charging statement, not fully disclosing evidence, and not even making the case that this should be murder 2.

The prosecutor made the ommissions that Zimmerman's wife did - who got charged and who didn't get charged?

Scott_Lafrance · #15 Jul 16, '12, 8:11 am

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The prosecutor made the ommissions that Zimmerman's wife did - who got charged and who didn't get charged?

Well, Zimmerman and his wife are dirty peasants, so they must be punished. The prosecutor is part of the club, so there can be no holding her wrong for anything. She is doing the work of the ruling class and she cannot be bothered with trivial details like "the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth" or due process, or any of that nonsense. Someone died and now Zimmerman has to pay.