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Aug 21, '05, 3:25 pm
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Re: Article on biological influences for homosexuality
You could say the same thing for alcoholics, chronic liars, kleptomaniacs, pedaphiles, drug addicts and a whole host of other people that " just can't help themselves it is in their genes".
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Aug 21, '05, 3:32 pm
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Re: Article on biological influences for homosexuality
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Originally Posted by tom.wineman
You could say the same thing for alcoholics, chronic liars, kleptomaniacs, pedaphiles, drug addicts and a whole host of other people that " just can't help themselves it is in their genes".
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Good point and abstinence is in order in all these cases.
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Aug 22, '05, 7:05 am
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Re: Article on biological influences for homosexuality
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Originally Posted by ega
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what is difficult about providing evidence of free will?
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You have made a proposition that free will does not exist. Prove it!
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IDvolution - God "breathed" the super language of DNA into the "kinds" in the creative act. Buffalo
"We are not some casual and meaningless product of evolution. Each of us is a thought of God."
“Science presupposes the trustworthy, intelligent structure of matter, the ‘design’ of creation.”
"A man of conscience, is one who never acquires tolerance, well- being, success, public standing, and approval on the part of prevailing opinion, at the expense of truth."
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Aug 22, '05, 3:25 pm
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Re: Article on biological influences for homosexuality
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Originally Posted by buffalo
You have made a proposition that free will does not exist. Prove it!
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After you.
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Aug 22, '05, 3:31 pm
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Re: Article on biological influences for homosexuality
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Good point and abstinence is in order in all these cases.
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A very poor point, unless you can prove that the indiviuals could help themselves.
Oh, and you can use you as an example. You must recreate the exact circumstances and then prove a different outcome was possible.
In anycase the argument relies on stereotypes to work. Not all alcoholic beat their wives and rape their kids, not a;; drug addicts rob to feed their habits.
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Aug 23, '05, 5:45 am
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Re: Article on biological influences for homosexuality
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Originally Posted by Traditional Ang
A more important move . . . is that Psychiatrists [are] ... supposed to help homosexuals to live and be contented as active homosexuals.
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As Father Benedict Groeschel, a practicing psychologist, said, the goal of modern psychology is to help people who are disturbed in one way or another to become merely miserable.
This is an example.
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Aug 23, '05, 7:27 am
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Re: Article on biological influences for homosexuality
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Originally Posted by ega
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what is difficult about providing evidence of free will?
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Give me evidence you are alive.
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IDvolution - God "breathed" the super language of DNA into the "kinds" in the creative act. Buffalo
"We are not some casual and meaningless product of evolution. Each of us is a thought of God."
“Science presupposes the trustworthy, intelligent structure of matter, the ‘design’ of creation.”
"A man of conscience, is one who never acquires tolerance, well- being, success, public standing, and approval on the part of prevailing opinion, at the expense of truth."
Pope Benedict XVI
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Aug 23, '05, 7:29 am
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Re: Article on biological influences for homosexuality
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After you.
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Another Dodge 
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IDvolution - God "breathed" the super language of DNA into the "kinds" in the creative act. Buffalo
"We are not some casual and meaningless product of evolution. Each of us is a thought of God."
“Science presupposes the trustworthy, intelligent structure of matter, the ‘design’ of creation.”
"A man of conscience, is one who never acquires tolerance, well- being, success, public standing, and approval on the part of prevailing opinion, at the expense of truth."
Pope Benedict XVI
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Aug 25, '05, 12:58 pm
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Re: Article on biological influences for homosexuality
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Nah mate. Lay your argument out if you can.
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Aug 26, '05, 7:25 pm
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Re: Article on biological influences for homosexuality
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Originally Posted by ega
LOL, try intraspecioes comparisons, you know, biology?
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I know biology, but I'm not familiar with the term "intraspecioes". 
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Humans are exceptional in their difficulty when compared to virtually any other creature that gives birth to live young. That's cbecause we have big brains and big heads.
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In theory, anyway. 
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Arguments from fear have no bearing on this debate. Many people drive cars.
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So you don't believe anything is so dangerous that people deserve to be warned about it? So dangerous it would be foolish to do it merely to satisfy a sexual urge?
Lifetime odds of dying in a transport accident: 1 in 77
http://www.nsc.org/lrs/statinfo/odds.htm
Risk of dying in childbirth - developed countries: 1 in 1800
Risk of dying in childbirth- developing countries: 1 in 48
http://www.safemotherhood.org/facts_..._mortality.htm
Chance of being HIV+, for gay white men: about 1 in 14
for gay black men: about 1 in 3
http://www.aegis.com/news/wb/2002/WB020704.html
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