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Gorillaman · #31 Jul 24, '12, 5:33 pm

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Originally Posted by iloveangels

I think you'd better start with the Catholics inside the Church who don't even know their own religion. They're the biggest pagans around.

What do you mean?...that statement seems wide out..

iloveangels · #32 Jul 24, '12, 8:48 pm

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Originally Posted by Gorillaman

What do you mean?...that statement seems wide out..

It's wide out because the behavior I've seen is "wide out." Catholics who don't know their faith not only don't behave in a Catholic sense, they don't behave in a Christian sense. I've seen Catholics do things that even unchurched ex-Protestants would never consider. And they've not be isolated instances, either.

They don't know their faith because they never learned it and that's one thing. But they were insulated by the people around them from learning general moral behavior such as a little ex-protestant kid might learn from grandparents and so on. The results aren't pretty. I've been catholic more than 25 years now, taught in a catholic school and so on, and I've seen some stupendously crazy stuff.

Trebor135 · #33 Jul 24, '12, 10:13 pm

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Originally Posted by iloveangels

It's wide out because the behavior I've seen is "wide out." Catholics who don't know their faith not only don't behave in a Catholic sense, they don't behave in a Christian sense. I've seen Catholics do things that even unchurched ex-Protestants would never consider. And they've not be isolated instances, either.

They don't know their faith because they never learned it and that's one thing. But they were insulated by the people around them from learning general moral behavior such as a little ex-protestant kid might learn from grandparents and so on. The results aren't pretty. I've been catholic more than 25 years now, taught in a catholic school and so on, and I've seen some stupendously crazy stuff.

Can you give us some examples to illustrate what you're saying?

**PRmerger** · #34 Jul 25, '12, 8:04 am

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Originally Posted by englishredrose

After all Protestants are fully fledged Christians and believe in God so why spend time being judgemental?

And yet....

here you are being judgmental.

**PRmerger** · #35 Jul 25, '12, 8:05 am

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Originally Posted by englishredrose

Why do Catholics on here spend their time, wasting their time putting protestants down?

It really doesn't give a good impression about how Catholics behave to people of other denominations and makes you who do so and these boards in bad light for wanting to have a go at protestants. Also makes you guys look bit like idiots when you are getting basic facts so very wrong too

And yet....

here you are putting Catholics down.

empther · #36 Jul 25, '12, 8:30 am

I lived in Roanoke, Virginia a few years back, and there was a Christian TV channel that showed televangelist programs twenty-four hours a day. There were all there, Jimmy Swaggart, Oral Roberts, Jerry Falwell, Jim and Tammy Bakker and their extravagant Heritage USA waterpark supported by Ponzi scheme financing, and a lot of lesser personalities.

There was constant attack on Catholics. Catholics weren't Christian, Catholics weren't born again, Catholics were going to hell, when he wasn't visiting the whorehouses Jimmy Swaggart said the Inquisition killed 95,000,000 people which exceeded the population of Europe until two centuries ago, the Catholic Church was the Whore of Babylon, the Pope was the Antichrist, Hitler was a Catholic etc etc etc.

It was disgusting.

Don't tell me Catholics dump on Protestants here. I've watched EWTN. Protestants are rarely mentioned.

**PRmerger** · #37 Jul 25, '12, 8:40 am

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Originally Posted by empther

Jimmy Swaggart said the Inquisition killed 95,000,000 which exceeded the population of Europe until two centuries ago,

LOL! That's funny!

I saw something similar in which an advertisement proclaimed "It is estimated that close to 9 million women died during the Inquisition." Ree-DAHNK-u-lous!

Do you have a reference for Jimmy Swaggart saying this? Just curious.

wcknight · #38 Jul 25, '12, 12:37 pm

Good old Mr. crocodile tears himself, Jimmy swine-heart... what a crock of horse feathers ! How anyone could take him seriously is amazing. I feel sorry for the folks who have been duped by folks like him, and other send me the money tele-evangelists.

At least a few like Rev Farewell limited themselves to a more reasonable salary/stipend (55K a few years back back -maybe much more by now)... The ones that put themselves up in fancy cars and plush houses, turn my stomach.

We don't need to scandalize them here, they scandalize themselves with their lavish life styles.

ThinkingSapien · #39 Jul 25, '12, 1:21 pm

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Originally Posted by Allegra

Were those blanket statements about all protestants or were them statements about some protestants. It seems to me that protestants are so diverse that you could make almost any statement you could think of and it wouldn't be true about all protestants and it would be true about some protestants.

Indeed, just like I can think of quite a few people that identify as Catholics that are okay with gay marriage and birth control. However, knowing of those Catholics isn't sufficient for saying that this view is characteristic of Catholics. I could be wrong, but I think what was being communicated is that there have been some attributes that have been in some sense unfairly presented as characteristic of protestants.

empther · #40 Jul 25, '12, 6:34 pm

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Jimmy Swaggart said the Inquisition killed 95,000,000 which exceeded the population of Europe until two centuries ago,

LOL! That's funny!

I saw something similar in which an advertisement proclaimed "It is estimated that close to 9 million women died during the Inquisition." Ree-DAHNK-u-lous!

Do you have a reference for Jimmy Swaggart saying this? Just curious.

I heard and saw him say it on his television program before a large audience many years ago, his "service" I guess he'd call it. No sign of the Eucharist at this "service" or anything else like that. I don't think Jesus played the piano like Jimmy did then.

95,000,000 hunh, Jimmy? Not likely I'd ever forget that nonsense.

During his "sevices", he would sometimes say, "I am not a theologian" as if being a theologcian was something bad. He was pandering to his ignorant audience.

iloveangels · #41 Jul 26, '12, 6:02 pm

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Originally Posted by empther

I heard and saw him say it on his television program before a large audience many years ago, his "service" I guess he'd call it. No sign of the Eucharist at this "service" or anything else like that. I don't think Jesus played the piano like Jimmy did then.

95,000,000 hunh, Jimmy? Not likely I'd ever forget that nonsense.

During his "sevices", he would sometimes say, "I am not a theologian" as if being a theologcian was something bad. He was pandering to his ignorant audience.

That's not what most protestants are like at all. That's the TV version in much the same way that Fr. Albert Cutie was our TV version. The protestants in your town are very likely to be much different than what you see on TV.

Gorillaman · #42 Jul 26, '12, 7:28 pm

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Originally Posted by iloveangels

That's not what most protestants are like at all. That's the TV version in much the same way that Fr. Albert Cutie was our TV version. The protestants in your town are very likely to be much different than what you see on TV.

Ok, I agree, what is your point here? What is your motivation? Do you think Catholics are too rough on Protestants or what ? Did you read the original post ? I'm just curious.