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Jul 28, '12, 5:22 pm
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Moloch?
In an article about the HHS mandate, Mark Shea references society serving "Mammon, Molock and Dionysus"
I know that Mammon is money and I assume Dionysus is wine and partying but what does Molock represent?
The article can be found at: http://www.ncregister.com/blog/mark-...and-unjust-war
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Jul 28, '12, 7:04 pm
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Re: Moloch?
Molock's were the cannibals that lived underground in HG Wells story the 'Time Machine' and preyed on the normal people to survive.
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Jul 28, '12, 7:46 pm
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Re: Moloch?
If I am right Molach is an ancient god associated with child sacrifice... so in this case the writer of the article may be using Moloch in relation to abortion...
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Jul 28, '12, 8:09 pm
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Re: Moloch?
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Originally Posted by Carolus Martell
Molock's were the cannibals that lived underground in HG Wells story the 'Time Machine' and preyed on the normal people to survive.
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Those were Morlocks...
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Jul 28, '12, 8:09 pm
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Re: Moloch?
As was just said, Moloch was an ancient false god whose worshippers sacrificed their children to him. His followers today more commonly refer to him by his new nickname "Choice."
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Jul 28, '12, 10:34 pm
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Re: Moloch?
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As was just said, Moloch was an ancient false god whose worshippers sacrificed their children to him. His followers today more commonly refer to him by his new nickname "Choice."
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Heh, I see what you did there. 
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Jul 29, '12, 3:29 am
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Re: Moloch?
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Those were Morlocks...
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I stand corrected...thank you.
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Jul 30, '12, 4:00 am
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Re: Moloch?
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If I am right Molach is an ancient god associated with child sacrifice... so in this case the writer of the article may be using Moloch in relation to abortion...
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As was just said, Moloch was an ancient false god whose worshippers sacrificed their children to him. His followers today more commonly refer to him by his new nickname "Choice."
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What they said.
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Jul 30, '12, 11:57 am
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Re: Moloch?
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Originally Posted by cthulhubryan
In an article about the HHS mandate, Mark Shea references society serving "Mammon, Molock and Dionysus"
I know that Mammon is money and I assume Dionysus is wine and partying but what does Molock represent?
The article can be found at: http://www.ncregister.com/blog/mark-...and-unjust-war |
As other's are saying.. Moloch was an ancient pagan diety which his followers.. some in Caana, use to offer children as sacrifice to them.
As I heard from sources... in at least one text, it describes a clay statue of Moloch which was hollow. They'd light a fire inside of the statue and wait for it to get glowing hot.
The statue had 2 outstretched hands, which the baby was placed on, once the statue was hot enough. The baby sacrifice would then literally COOK to death as tribute to Moloch.
I wish I could find the source of that information.
The bible talks about those who worshipped pagan gods 'consuming their children' -- that could be in reference to Moloch.
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Jul 30, '12, 1:05 pm
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Re: Moloch?
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Originally Posted by jschutzm
As other's are saying.. Moloch was an ancient pagan diety which his followers.. some in Caana, use to offer children as sacrifice to them.
As I heard from sources... in at least one text, it describes a clay statue of Moloch which was hollow. They'd light a fire inside of the statue and wait for it to get glowing hot.
The statue had 2 outstretched hands, which the baby was placed on, once the statue was hot enough. The baby sacrifice would then literally COOK to death as tribute to Moloch.
I wish I could find the source of that information.
The bible talks about those who worshipped pagan gods 'consuming their children' -- that could be in reference to Moloch.
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The command not to offer children to Molech was explicit.
"Say to the people of Israel, Any man of the people of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel, who gives any of his children to Molech shall be put to death; the people of the land shall stone him with stones. I myself will set my face against that man, and will cut him off from among his people, because he has given one of his children to Molech, defiling my sanctuary and profaning my holy name. And if the people of the land do at all hide their eyes from that man, when he gives one of his children to Molech, and do not put him to death, then I will set my face against that man and against his family, and will cut them off from among their people, him and all who follow him in playing the harlot after Molech. (Leviticus 20:1-4) It was a brutal place back then.
Those who dwelt of old in thy holy land
thou didst hate for their detestable practices,
their works of sorcery and unholy rites,
their merciless slaughter of children,
and their sacrificial feasting on human flesh and blood.
These initiates from the midst of a heathen cult,
these parents who murder helpless lives,
thou didst will to destroy by the hands of our fathers,
that the land most precious of all to thee
might receive a worthy colony of the servants of God.(Wisdom 12:3-7) People wonder why God destroyed the pagans. The book of Wisdom tells us about some of their practices including incest, child sacrifice and cannibalism.
As described, child sacrifice to the god Molech was particularly disgusting.
There is absolutely no question in my mind why God had some of these people destroyed, and I fear that his patience is running out with us because of our modern day equivalent - abortion.
-Tim-
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Re: Moloch?
Thank you for the quote from Leviticus. I see myself, though I hope to not condemn myself, as one that has not really stood up against abortion. I don't want God to turn His face from me.
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Re: Moloch?
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Originally Posted by Carolus Martell
Molock's were the cannibals that lived underground in HG Wells story the 'Time Machine' and preyed on the normal people to survive.
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Morlocks and Eloi derivative probably
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Aug 4, '12, 1:13 pm
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Re: Moloch?
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Originally Posted by jschutzm
As other's are saying.. Moloch was an ancient pagan diety which his followers.. some in Caana, use to offer children as sacrifice to them.
As I heard from sources... in at least one text, it describes a clay statue of Moloch which was hollow. They'd light a fire inside of the statue and wait for it to get glowing hot.
The statue had 2 outstretched hands, which the baby was placed on, once the statue was hot enough. The baby sacrifice would then literally COOK to death as tribute to Moloch.
I wish I could find the source of that information.
The bible talks about those who worshipped pagan gods 'consuming their children' -- that could be in reference to Moloch.
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Ick! Certainly glad that God put the smack down on them! But then again, at least the children were allowed to be born.
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Sts. Ignatious of Loyola and Pope Pius V, please pray for me that I will be able to be united with Christ in the Catholic Church soon. Amen
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Re: Moloch?
Moloch was bad, but how will humanity stand before God when our own Moloch-like idolatry has murdered 1.26 BILLION infants since 1980.
Number of Abortions in US & Worldwide
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