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Old Oct 8, '12, 12:55 pm
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Default Archbishop Sheen and Cardinal Spellman?

Despite his television show, his multitude of books and personal appearances, ABp. Fulton J. Sheen largely played second fiddle to Cardinal Francis Spellman while they were both alive and in power. Some suggest Spellman even envied Sheen and intentionally "kept him down" when Sheen was an underling to Spellman in NYC.

Now we hear a great deal about Sheen (obviously for good reason) and very little about Spellman. Why is that? Is it because Sheen left behind such a huge and important body of work compared to Spellman?
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Default Re: Archbishop Sheen and Cardinal Spellman?

From Sheen's obvious humility, it would be uncharacteristic of this unprideful holy man, who could have found something better to do than to stand in front of a blackboard, chalk in hand to an audience he can't even see.

But my friend, what is that to us that we need to discuss the characteristics of two men who gave their lives for us through the Church? For some reason we need to place two subjects in opposition. Is that not satiation of a craving for competition, placing our conceptual wagers in this game of presumption, as if cock fights are more interesting than simply to marvel at their beautiful plumage, their contribution to this world.?

But for a more important reason, the contentions we all have are things we hope God and society will forgive, and I am sure these men if their were any, would have been remorseful to the end. They have taught the subject of reconciliation, and we can reason they would have applied their teachings to themselves.

But this is not our place. We lay community know to honor these blessed esteemed gifts and guides, and we, undeserving as we are, hold their work and contribution with great thanks to them and their God.

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Despite his television show, his multitude of books and personal appearances, ABp. Fulton J. Sheen largely played second fiddle to Cardinal Francis Spellman while they were both alive and in power. Some suggest Spellman even envied Sheen and intentionally "kept him down" when Sheen was an underling to Spellman in NYC.

Now we hear a great deal about Sheen (obviously for good reason) and very little about Spellman. Why is that? Is it because Sheen left behind such a huge and important body of work compared to Spellman?
More like the reruns of "Life is Worth Living" on EWTN have something to do with it. Also, he has some pretty well known people promoting his cause for canonization.
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More like the reruns of "Life is Worth Living" on EWTN have something to do with it. Also, he has some pretty well known people promoting his cause for canonization.
That could indeed be the case. I had heard of ABp. Sheen and his show but knew nothing about the man until I began to watch them on EWTN. Then I discovered and read a few of his many (upwards of 70) books.

Spellman was a huge deal not too many years ago but we hear nothing about him today. We hear some about Cardinal Terrence Cooke, Cardinal John O'Connor and a great deal about Sheen, but next to nothing about Cardinal Spellman these days and I was just curious why.
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Default Re: Archbishop Sheen and Cardinal Spellman?

Interesting that you should bring this up. My husband gave a talk within the past year, and part of it addressed the relationship between Abp. Sheen and Cardinal Spellman.

Fulton Sheen (actually born Peter John Sheen) was in charge of the Society of the Propagation of the Faith, which involved considerable sums of money. The Cardinal wished to divert funds from Sheen's control, a battle he lost when the Pope sided with Abp. Sheen. To say that there was little love lost between the two would be an understatement; it was believed by insiders that the Cardinal engineered Sheen being sent to Rochester in order to prevent him from becoming his successor in New York. It is highly ironic that now both Spellman and Sheen lie in the same crypt under St. Patrick's Cathedral.

Abp. Sheen earned his doctorate from the University of Louvain, where he was acknowledged as uncommonly brilliant. He was a tireless worker for the poor of the world; it is perhaps not generally known that he built the first Catholic hospital for African Americans in Alabama, along with several churches, and donated about $10 million of his own money to the missionary society. Although regarded by many as an apologist for the right wing, he was actually a vocal critic of the Vietnam War and opposed nuclear weapons.

With his highly successful TV show, numerous high profile conversions and prolific writing, it is not surprising that he is well remembered. Having been designated as "Venerable", he may well be on his way to sainthood.
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