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Old Aug 28, '05, 10:31 pm
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Default What does "Ave" mean??

What does the word "Ave" mean from the song Ave Maria?? (did I spell that correctly?) Anyone know the history on the song? Just curious.. thanks.
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Old Aug 28, '05, 10:36 pm
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It means "hail" as in Hail Mary. It is a greeting. And of course the song is inspired by the prayer. Do you want more history than that?
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Old Aug 28, '05, 10:47 pm
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It means "hail" as in Hail Mary. It is a greeting. And of course the song is inspired by the prayer. Do you want more history than that?
What language is it? Also.. when was it written - guesstimate?

I ask because we were thinking of naming our baby Ava Maria & my husband pointed out that people might think her name is Ave Maria.. so we wondered about the song.
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Old Aug 28, '05, 10:50 pm
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Check it out on wikipedia...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ave_Maria
Hope this helps.
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Old Aug 28, '05, 10:53 pm
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Check it out on wikipedia...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ave_Maria
Hope this helps.
Perfect! Thank you! CM
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Old Aug 28, '05, 11:15 pm
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What language is it? Also.. when was it written - guesstimate?

I ask because we were thinking of naming our baby Ava Maria & my husband pointed out that people might think her name is Ave Maria.. so we wondered about the song.
I think that would be a beautiful name.
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Old Aug 29, '05, 5:49 am
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Check it out on wikipedia...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ave_Maria
Hope this helps.
"Ave is a Latin term, used by the Romans as a salute, meaning 'hail'.

The term was especially used to greet the Caesar or other authorities (such as the popular phrase Ave Caesar, Morituri te Salutant, "Hail, Caesar, those who will die salute you", phrase supposed to have been used by Gladiators before a combat). The Vulgate version of the Annunciation translates the salute of the angel to Mary, Mother of Jesus as Ave Maria, gratia plena ("Hail Mary, full of grace"). Ave Maria is a Catholic Marian prayer that has inspired authors of religious music.

Fascist regimes during the 20th century also adopted the greeting. It was used during Nazi Germany in the direct German translation, heil."
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Old Aug 29, '05, 6:41 am
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What does the word "Ave" mean from the song Ave Maria?? (did I spell that correctly?) Anyone know the history on the song? Just curious.. thanks.
Carol,
I am assuming that you are Catholic as you are in the Catholic Answers forum. If so, I am shaking my head in complete disbelief that any Catholic need ask such a basic question.

Did you "learn" your Faith sometime after 1965? Just asking.
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Old Aug 29, '05, 7:03 am
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Carol,
I am assuming that you are Catholic as you are in the Catholic Answers forum. If so, I am shaking my head in complete disbelief that any Catholic need ask such a basic question.

Did you "learn" your Faith sometime after 1965? Just asking.
There are quite a lot of Catholics who know no Latin, including those of the other Catholic Churches and converts. The teaching of basic Latin is ignored in parishes, so it does not surprise me that someone would have this question.

If one was raised learning prayers in the vernacular and never attended Latin classes, one might not know what Ave means. The only place I come across it in Latin texts is in the formula Ave atque vale (Hail and farewell).

I would guess that if you asked Catholics what Ave means, you might get a variety of responses. English rarely uses the word Hail anymore as a greeting; that might be part of the issue.
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Old Aug 29, '05, 11:07 am
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Carol,
I am assuming that you are Catholic as you are in the Catholic Answers forum. If so, I am shaking my head in complete disbelief that any Catholic need ask such a basic question.

Did you "learn" your Faith sometime after 1965? Just asking.
Yes.. long after 1965 (wasn't even born yet! ) I learned my faith from the fall of 2004 - until the spring of 2005. I was an Evangelical Christian who became Catholic this past Easter. (Latin was never spoken in my old church!) And although I've learned alot about the Catholic faith... it's impossible to learn everything in such a short time, so I don't feel silly asking such "basic questions." Now I know.

Peace & Ave Maria!
CM
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Old Aug 29, '05, 11:18 am
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Yes.. long after 1965 (wasn't even born yet! ) I learned my faith from the fall of 2004 - until the spring of 2005. I was an Evangelical Christian who became Catholic this past Easter. (Latin was never spoken in my old church!) And although I've learned alot about the Catholic faith... it's impossible to learn everything in such a short time, so I don't feel silly asking such "basic questions." Now I know.

Peace & Ave Maria!
CM
Good for you, Carol marie! After all we are here to seek "Catholic Answers" May I also say Welcome Home.
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Yes.. long after 1965 (wasn't even born yet! ) I learned my faith from the fall of 2004 - until the spring of 2005. I was an Evangelical Christian who became Catholic this past Easter. (Latin was never spoken in my old church!) And although I've learned alot about the Catholic faith... it's impossible to learn everything in such a short time, so I don't feel silly asking such "basic questions." Now I know.

Peace & Ave Maria!
CM
What a classy response to an incredibly rude comment
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Carol,
I am assuming that you are Catholic as you are in the Catholic Answers forum. If so, I am shaking my head in complete disbelief that any Catholic need ask such a basic question.

Did you "learn" your Faith sometime after 1965? Just asking.
PreVatII;

How "christian" of you to respond with such "charity." You really are quite "learned" in the ways of Christ. I'm sure all of us here can "learn" quite a lesson from your "remarks."

Carol Marie;

Welcome home. Keep asking your questions.
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Old Aug 29, '05, 1:44 pm
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Yes.. long after 1965 (wasn't even born yet! ) I learned my faith from the fall of 2004 - until the spring of 2005. I was an Evangelical Christian who became Catholic this past Easter. (Latin was never spoken in my old church!) And although I've learned alot about the Catholic faith... it's impossible to learn everything in such a short time, so I don't feel silly asking such "basic questions." Now I know.

Peace & Ave Maria!
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If you have any questions about Latin, there are several people around here, including me, who will give you straight answers without nastiness.

I would tell you to ignore the occasional snipers and just have fun here, but you need no advice from me about that.

Pax tecum. (Peace be with you.)
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What a classy response to an incredibly rude comment
That's Our Carol Marie! It was a rude comment but she handled it with God's grace.
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