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Old Nov 27, '12, 11:43 am
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Default What do you think of the following:

Harry Potter
Twilight
the Da Vinci Code/Angels and Demons
the Golden Compass
the Simpsons
South Park
Family Guy
Shrek
TV Tropes
Encyclopedia Dramatica
4Chan
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Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris and Daniel Dennit
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Old Nov 27, '12, 12:24 pm
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Default Re: What do you think of the following:

You are cramming way too much stuff into one thread. The discussion will be all over the place. Each of those things deserves a discussion of its own - and I know that some at least, such as Harry Potter, already have numerous discussion threads devoted to them on CAF.
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Old Nov 27, '12, 12:30 pm
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Harry Potter
Magic for magics sake serves no purpose

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Twilight
Not bad but could be better if they modified the lead character from the type of black character found in the books. I'm not a fan but I don't hate it either.

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the Da Vinci Code/Angels and Demons
I'm an opus dei member in real life who wears chains and is highly trained in martial arts. You clearly know too much so I'm coming to get you with a made at home weapon that's unwieldy but is bad *** looking because I made it to look like a cross.

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the Golden Compass
Haven't seen it but looks fun enough to try

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the Simpsons
they are still on the air? *shrug*

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South Park
I respect they make fun of everyone equally but sometimes they just go to far.

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Family Guy
They spend way to much time catholic bashing. If they made fun of everyone like south park maybe they would get the same comment as above.
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Shrek
first one was funny but I didn't want to watch the others after the second.

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TV Tropes
seems to general to comment on honestly

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its like 4chan

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Hey look! its 4chan!

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Old Nov 27, '12, 1:28 pm
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Kithrus,


I admire the way you just went over that many incredibly complex subjects and managed to make a short answer to each without your head exploding.
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Old Nov 27, '12, 1:42 pm
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Family guy, south park, and the da vinici code are all trash and filth for the mind and the soul in my opinion and they should be avoided
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Old Nov 27, '12, 1:44 pm
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Harry Potter
I like it and defend it, but there are people on CAF who will bash it about as much as I'll defend it

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Twilight
No religion related opinions; I just generally dislike it

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the Da Vinci Code/Angels and Demons
the Golden Compass
the Simpsons
No opinions, although I've heard The Golden Compass described as an atheist's Narnia

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South Park
NO. They cross too many lines by indiscriminately attacking anyone and everyone. I've been to political comedy shows. It is possible to be funny with stuff like that, but South Park isn't.

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Family Guy
Too much potty humor for my tastes.

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Shrek
Really interesting from a scholarly standpoint. It follows the path of a hero fairly closely.

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TV Tropes
TV Tropes will ruin your life! Nah, I like the site. I actually have a habit of adding the Catholic viewpoint to some pages (theistic evolution)

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4Chan
Never heard of ED, don't know anything about 4Chan

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It's art. Some is good, some is immoral. I'm sure they have guidelines in place to prevent some of the latter
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I've been on 4chan before. It's a near occasion of sin. Several of the boards are completely devoted to pornographic images/cartoons, etc. A lot of it is discussions about how to have sex with girls or past exploits at parties. A lot of it is a big joke (a parody of a parody)--some of the posters post racist/sexist things for shats and giggles. They also play games which involve "rolling." You see, each post on 4chan has a random ID number. So the games are based on chance--the last few digits determine what you do in the game. Some of the games are morally neutral--risk, dares, etc. But others involve masturbating to a specific porn actress based on one's roll.

I wouldn't recommend it for a Catholic, especially a young Catholic male. When I thought I was an atheist I frequented that site, and sometimes when I fall to in I still go back there.

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Old Nov 27, '12, 2:42 pm
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Harry Potter Absolutely love HP. Great story, great characters, appeals to all ages, and got my generation reading!

Twilight Hate it. It's boring, misogynistic, and poorly written.

the Da Vinci Code/Angels and Demons Boring, poorly written, and all over the place.

the Golden Compass I want to see it.

the Simpsons Stopped being funny well over a decade ago.

South Park Hit or miss, some episodes have me rolling on the floor in laughter, others just make me roll my eyes out of boredom.

Family Guy Stopped being funny almost a decade ago.

Shrek I love it!

TV Tropes The absolute most boring website ever.

Encyclopedia Dramatica Meh.

4Chan Waste of time. Anything worth my time from that site will show up on Reddit.

Deviantart Ugh, psuedo-intellectuals.

Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris and Daniel Dennit Depends. I like reading and listening to Dawkins, he is an excellent communicator but I don't understand people who eat up his every word. One of the benefits to being an atheist is that you get to decide how you feel about things for yourself. Why give that power to someone else? Hitchens was always very boring to listen to, but his writing is extremely thought-provoking. He also pushed the idea of being good to your fellow man even at the expense of yourself, which I very much loved. Harris might be worth my time in 10 or 20 years. He's still very young and hasn't quite figured out how to make a point clearly and concisely. I hate listening to him speak. Dennit is intelligent and a bit underrated, but he kind of rides on the coattails of the other three to get people to listen to his ideas.

Ayn Rand I enjoyed reading 'Atlas Shrugged' as a kid. The idea that anyone would want to base a society off of her ideas is shocking though. The first thing that you learn about economics is that it is an amoral science. It looks at everything objectively in terms of numeric worth. That is very useful in many ways, but it is not how you build a compassionate and thriving society.
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Old Nov 28, '12, 2:48 am
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Will only comment on ones I have watched/read, as the others I either don't know of, or have no real opinion of because while I have heard of them, I have not read/watched.

Harry Potter - harmless, IMO. I don't know any child who has read them & thought - oooh, buy me a wand & I can learn that too. LOL They were entertaining reads, for the most part.

Shrek - love Shrek!!! Funny, entertaining, & many good moral points within the movies.

Simpsons/South Park/Family Guy - I think I've seen exactly one episode of each. Well, maybe a few more of the Simpsons when it first came out. Wasn't my type of thing to watch. Are they crass? Yes. Should children watch? Depends on their age/maturity level, IMO.

DaVinci Code/Angels & Demons - started to read the DaVinci Code, got bored, put it down. Someone loaned me Angels & Demons - I'm guessing I won't get much further with that one. Therefore, no interest in the movies.

Twilight - read the first book to see what all the hype was. Was "ok". Did not grab my attention in such a way that I felt compelled to read the rest of the books. I have seen the first & second movies. Again, just "ok". Morally speaking, it's just fiction. Geared toward teens, who if they don't know by then that those things just won't happen, well, then there are bigger issues. Again, JMHO.
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Old Nov 28, '12, 3:59 am
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Harry Potter
Twilight
the Da Vinci Code/Angels and Demons
the Golden Compass
the Simpsons
South Park
Family Guy
Shrek
TV Tropes
Encyclopedia Dramatica
4Chan
Deviantart
Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris and Daniel Dennit
Ayn Rand
Harry Potter = Watched the series final thougts? Meh!

Twilight = Not an avid fan of vampires

the Da Vinci Code/Angels and Demons = Read the first, watched the second, veiled or perhaps not so veiled attacks to the Catholic faith with mumbo jumbo! Could see right through it.

the Golden Compass = Pathetic film, after all the hoopla was disappointed.

the Simpsons = Garbage never allowed any in my household to watch that junk.

South Park = Ditto!
Family Guy = Should I repeat myself?

Shrek = 1st movie fas funny, sequels? Meh!

TV Tropes = Never used

Encyclopedia Dramatica = Idem

4Chan = I really don't have that much time to waste on the internet!

Deviantart = Are you kidding me? Real Art which by the way also include a song with a meaninful lirics instead of some repetitive senseless jumjum!

Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris and Daniel Dennit
If that is the best they can come with!

Ayn Rand = The triumph of reason? GIVE ME A BREAK! Any one seen any reason lately?
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Old Nov 28, '12, 5:57 am
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I'll answer the OP's question first. I don't see any harm in any of the things on the list, unless they should be a cause of sin for the person. E.g., someone who has a weakness for involvement with the occult might have to choose to avoid Harry Potter because it tempts them. (Most people can read Harry Potter and enjoy it without worrying about any kind of temptation, other than the temptation to spend a ton of money on Harry Potter paraphernalia!).

I would respectfully question whether someone who is involved with "fandom" (for lack of a better word) for all these things is really spending their time wisely. Fandom is very time-consuming--I consider myself a "fan" of several milieu: FIGURE SKATING!!!!, Sherlock Holmes, Dark Shadows, Robert Patrick (actor who played Terminator 2), Sting, Taylor Hicks. It takes time to watch or read about my fan interests, and it also costs money. I honestly don't think I could continue to be a fan of these things and add more things. I probably should drop some of these and put it all into figure skating (but the figure skaters aren't as cute as Robert Patrick!).

Most of us have only a few hours of leisure time each day:
8 hours of work or school
6-8 hours of sleep
1 hour of "personal grooming, bathroom, and hopefully some physical exercise
1 hour of some kind of religious devotion (Mass, Adoration, Bible study, prayer, etc.)
1 hour of "chores" e.g. driving to places, cooking, cleaning, car maint, pet care, etc..
1 hour of eating

This is a total of 18-20 hours of "necessary" time that most of us can't get out of. That leaves about 4-6 hours for each person each day of "leisure" time. Wouldn't that list of shows and movies and other media experiences take much more time to pursue than 4-6 hours each day?

I suppose someone could cram it all into a weekend. Or people can "double up" and eat at the same time they watch TV, or do their personal grooming with a TV in the bathroom. Or many people shorten their religious devotion to only an hour a week. And some lucky people can watch TV/movies while they work or while they are in school.

But yowza, people! Is that any way to live? It's not really a life--it's immersing yourself in non-reality.

I will say, though, that one of the reasons I get involved with fandom with all the things on my list is spending time with other fans.

I suppose another possibility is that someone who is disabled might have a lot more time to spend on these kind of leisure activities, and I can understand that. But it really depends on the disability. I know a lot of "disabled" people who accomlish more than I do!

Anyway, I think we should consider how we spend our limited time here on this earth and invest ourselves wisely. I struggle with it, too--e.g., right now, I'm sitting here eating Ritz crackers and cruising around CAF! But I have an excuse--a bad cold.
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Old Nov 28, '12, 7:54 am
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Harry Potter- have never read it watched.

the Simpsons
South Park
Family Guy


Do not like these cartoons at all. The characters are extremely rude crude.
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I admire the way you just went over that many incredibly complex subjects and managed to make a short answer to each without your head exploding.
Well many things on the Internet are trolling and sometimes the fastest way to disarm trolls is to make a joke they can enjoy out of what they presented.

I'm not sure op IS a troll but I had fun and nothing of value was lost.
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Well many things on the Internet are trolling and sometimes the fastest way to disarm trolls is to make a joke they can enjoy out of what they presented.

I'm not sure op IS a troll but I had fun and nothing of value was lost.
Haha, I agree. I just didn't care to say anything on the topics myself so I figured I'd just say something humorous.
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