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Dec 30, '12, 7:33 pm
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Little t traditions for the EC...
Do the eastern Catholics generally cross themselves right to left? Wear their wedding band on the left or right hand?
Is this EO site close enough for the liturgy of the hours?
http://orthodox.seasidehosting.st/hourly_services
Do you all listen to Ancient Faith Radio online which is EO?
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Dec 30, '12, 9:16 pm
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Re: Little t traditions for the EC...
Well, I can really only answer one of those: We cross from the right to the left.
I have never heard of the wedding band switchup and I would wait for someone more knowledgeable to answer whether the liturgy of the hours is correct on that site.
Sorry I couldn't have been too much of a help. I just wanted my two cents about the sign of the cross.
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Dec 30, '12, 10:22 pm
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Re: Little t traditions for the EC...
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Originally Posted by capablanca911
Do the eastern Catholics generally cross themselves right to left? Wear their wedding band on the left or right hand?
Is this EO site close enough for the liturgy of the hours?
http://orthodox.seasidehosting.st/hourly_services
Do you all listen to Ancient Faith Radio online which is EO? |
Since the majority of EC's are of the Byzantine rite... yes, "generally" - but not all the eastern rites do.
The Eastern orthodox office of the hours are (for almost all purposes) identical to the Byzantine Rite Catholic ones, save for the papal commemorations.
One can't even assume a wedding band.
Slavic cultures often dictated how married vs unmarried women wore their hair and head scarves. Norse likewise.
Men whose shirts were plain were presumed to be single - even a poor man's wife would decorate his shirts.
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Dec 31, '12, 8:39 am
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Re: Little t traditions for the EC...
I wear both my wedding and my engagement rings on my right hand; and my husband wears his wedding ring on his right hand. 
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Dec 31, '12, 5:00 pm
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Re: Little t traditions for the EC...
The Coptic Church, both Oriental Orthodox and Catholics alike, cross from left to right. 
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Dec 31, '12, 10:13 pm
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Re: Little t traditions for the EC...
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The Coptic Church, both Oriental Orthodox and Catholics alike, cross from left to right. |
Huh, I never knew that. I wonder how "left to right" got started. It makes more sense to me to go "right to left" as the Son shall sit on the right hand of the Father.
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Dec 31, '12, 10:26 pm
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Re: Little t traditions for the EC...
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Originally Posted by Timothy_Garber
Huh, I never knew that. I wonder how "left to right" got started. It makes more sense to me to go "right to left" as the Son shall sit on the right hand of the Father.
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Maybe because the Latin says Spiritus Sancie (Spirit Holy) and the Greek says Agios Neumati (Holy Spirit). Latins and Greeks both say "Holy" on the same shoulder. Just a thought. I really have no certain answer.
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Dec 31, '12, 10:47 pm
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Re: Little t traditions for the EC...
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Huh, I never knew that. I wonder how "left to right" got started. It makes more sense to me to go "right to left" as the Son shall sit on the right hand of the Father.
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One theory is that the right-to-left, which is believed to have been universal at one point, was done to "mirror" the priest, who, when blessing the people, crosses left-to-right. At some point, in the West, people switched to crossing themselves left-to-right, in imitation of the priest, instead of mirroring the priest.
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Dec 31, '12, 11:14 pm
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Re: Little t traditions for the EC...
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Originally Posted by RyanBlack
One theory is that the right-to-left, which is believed to have been universal at one point, was done to "mirror" the priest, who, when blessing the people, crosses left-to-right. At some point, in the West, people switched to crossing themselves left-to-right, in imitation of the priest, instead of mirroring the priest.
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The old believer way of crossing, seems to support the first part of this theory, as it is essentially the gesture of blessing mirrored and turned around on oneself.
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Dec 31, '12, 11:45 pm
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Re: Little t traditions for the EC...
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Originally Posted by RyanBlack
One theory is that the right-to-left, which is believed to have been universal at one point, was done to "mirror" the priest, who, when blessing the people, crosses left-to-right. At some point, in the West, people switched to crossing themselves left-to-right, in imitation of the priest, instead of mirroring the priest.
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I can see that.
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