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Old Feb 15, '13, 1:08 am
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Default Archbishop vs Bishop Cassock/other vestments

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Is there a difference between an archbishops cassocks and a bishops? Am i wrong in thinking that an archbishop has red buttons and trimming but the same violet sash and with the same color zuchetto?

I know about the pallum and I am not talking about choir dress (but if there is a difference let me know.) But if you anyone has any insight if there are any/all differences it would be greatly appreciated.
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Hello,

Is there a difference between an archbishops cassocks and a bishops? Am i wrong in thinking that an archbishop has red buttons and trimming but the same violet sash and with the same color zuchetto?

I know about the pallum and I am not talking about choir dress (but if there is a difference let me know.) But if you anyone has any insight if there are any/all differences it would be greatly appreciated.
There are no differences in the choir and Mass/house cassocks of bishops and archbishops. The obvious difference would be in their episcopal coat of arms. A bishop would have 6 fiocchi on each side and an archbishop 10 fiocchi (tassels). A bishop would have an ordinary processional cross and an archbishop would have an arch-episcopal cross behind the arms.
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There are no differences in the choir and Mass/house cassocks of bishops and archbishops. The obvious difference would be in their episcopal coat of arms. A bishop would have 6 fiocchi on each side and an archbishop 10 fiocchi (tassels). A bishop would have an ordinary processional cross and an archbishop would have an arch-episcopal cross behind the arms.
And a metropolitan-archbishop wears the pallium over his chasuble at Mass. The archbishops who preside over non-metropolitan archdioceses, titular archbishops and archbishops-in-personal-title do not wear a pallium and do not have that privilege.
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The fascia is the same color? What about the trimming and button color on the cassock. Don't archbishops have red buttons and trimming with the purple fascia?
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The fascia is the same color? What about the trimming and button color on the cassock. Don't archbishops have red buttons and trimming with the purple fascia?
The clothing of bishops and archbishops is exactly the same, except that archbishops get to wear a pallium when celebrating Mass. If the archbishop is a metropolitan, that is.
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Interesting, I don't know why I keep thinking that there are different shades of purple when they are wearing their everyday black cassocks.
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Interesting, I don't know why I keep thinking that there are different shades of purple when they are wearing their everyday black cassocks.
The various grades of monsignor wear a cassock which looks very much like a bishop's/archbishop's soutane without the cape. However, the color of piping/lining/buttons on their cassock is also different.
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The fascia is the same color? What about the trimming and button color on the cassock. Don't archbishops have red buttons and trimming with the purple fascia?
Long ago the color of a bishop was green. According to the standards for the past couple of hundred years, red piping and buttons, as well as sash were worn except for funerals and penitential times, when purple was worn. Pope John XXIII reformed some of the dress of Bishops, Archbishops and Cardinals, and most (cardinals) no longer have trains, or train bearers, and few if any wear ermine. A few have started wearing the ferriolae again, (cape).

Both red and roman purple have the significance that a bishop is willing to sacrifice his life for our Lord and the Faith.
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The various grades of monsignor wear a cassock which looks very much like a bishop's/archbishop's soutane without the cape. However, the color of piping/lining/buttons on their cassock is also different.
The differences between monsignori mark those who are honorary members of the Papal Household and those who actually work within the Vatican who hold a position within one of the official Congregations.
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Sadly vestment and cassock makers sometimes take liberties, and some of the clergy just go along with what is being sold, even if it does not follow the protocol of the Church.
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