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Old Mar 13, '13, 4:48 pm
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What are Pope Francis's views about the increased availability the Latin Mass? Do you think he will continue Pope Emeritus Benedict's work?
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What are Pope Francis's views about the increased availability the Latin Mass? Do you think he will continue Pope Emeritus Benedict's work?
According to Rorate Caeli, he seems rather apathetic towards the Extraordinary Form. I would be very much surprised if His Holiness continued with Benedict's traditional "reform of the reform".
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There is no FSSP presence in Argentina at all and there appear to be no Extraordinary Form Masses in Argentina except for SSPX Chapels, of which there are quite a few, including one in the Archdiocese of Buenos Aires. The Holy Father has apparently never celebrated one, at least I could find no record of it, and reportedly does not allow it to be celebrated in his Diocese.. After perusing the Buenos Aires Archdiocesan website, I could find no mention of the Extraordinary Form of the Mass being celebrated anywhere by anyone. While those facts are not really surprisingr, they are somewhat disheartening, especially after the Indult by Blessed Pope John Paul II and the generous application allowed by Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI.

That being said, Pope Francis is my Pope and I do support him.

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According to Rorate Caeli, he seems rather apathetic towards the Extraordinary Form. I would be very much surprised if His Holiness continued with Benedict's traditional "reform of the reform".
It doesn't appear reform of the liturgy is at the top of his agenda, but I would be surprised if the Spanish Masses weren't expanded.
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The initial reports I have heard haven't sounded encouraging, but I'll wait a little bit to see what else comes to light. I have a feeling that he's not going to do much with the liturgy one way or the other, but I guess we have to wait and see for that.
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I have seen video of him in lovely vestments incensing the altar at a Mass. I did not see the rest of the Mass so can't say which form it was, but I know enough to know that his Masses will be correct and reverent.
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I have seen video of him in lovely vestments incensing the altar at a Mass. I did not see the rest of the Mass so can't say which form it was, but I know enough to know that his Masses will be correct and reverent.
Can you post a link?

And regarding no EF's in Argentina: I've heard from one person that Latin America is forty years behind in a lot of things. Perhaps Pope Francis can start the ball rolling in getting people back to reverent Masses. Who knows? It's WAY too early to tell.
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Can you post a link?

And regarding no EF's in Argentina: I've heard from one person that Latin America is forty years behind in a lot of things. Perhaps Pope Francis can start the ball rolling in getting people back to reverent Masses. Who knows? It's WAY too early to tell.
I agree. It is way too early (and not appropriate ever) to start being suspicious of and dissing our new Pope.
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I am guessing that, due to the similarity in the languages, someone who is a native Spanish or Italian speaker does not see the Latin Mass as very different from the Mass in Spanish or Italian. Their perspective is going to be different than an English or German speaker.
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It doesn't appear reform of the liturgy is at the top of his agenda, but I would be surprised if the Spanish Masses weren't expanded.
I would agree that is probably not at the top of the agenda, nor should it be. Probably shouldn't be in the top 10
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I am guessing that, due to the similarity in the languages, someone who is a native Spanish or Italian speaker does not see the Latin Mass as very different from the Mass in Spanish or Italian. Their perspective is going to be different than an English or German speaker.
But the language is hardly the only difference.
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There is no FSSP presence in Argentina at all and there appear to be no Extraordinary Form Masses in Argentina except for SSPX Chapels, of which there are quite a few, including one in the Archdiocese of Buenos Aires. The Holy Father has apparently never celebrated one, at least I could find no record of it, and reportedly does not allow it to be celebrated in his Diocese.. After perusing the Buenos Aires Archdiocesan website, I could find no mention of the Extraordinary Form of the Mass being celebrated anywhere by anyone. While those facts are not really surprisingr, they are somewhat disheartening, especially after the Indult by Blessed Pope John Paul II and the generous application allowed by Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI.

That being said, Pope Francis is my Pope and I do support him.

Habemus Papum.

I heard the same as well. From people who lived there. He did not approve of the Latin Mass in Buenos Aires
It saddens me a lot , but He is my Pope & I do support & pray for Him.
God Bless Him.

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I have seen video of him in lovely vestments incensing the altar at a Mass. I did not see the rest of the Mass so can't say which form it was, but I know enough to know that his Masses will be correct and reverent.
For The Scott: The video excerpt was on CNN earlier today; it might be available on their website.
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Can you post a link?
I will if I can find it again. I have been on about 100 sites today, soaking up the news!
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Thanks for your help everyone. I'll take a look at CNN.
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