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Old May 15, '13, 4:18 am
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Not sure if this is the right forum....Moderator...please move if necessary....

I'm currently in a discussion elsewhere about the financial aspects of various churches - and Christianity in general.

As part of my thinking on this....I wondered what the average diocesan priest's salary/benefits are. A quick search of our local diocesan website turned up nothing....(no financial reports etc.), so I thought the quickest way to get some general info would be to ask here.
I'm sure this probably varies from locale to locale...I'm in the mid-west of the United States...but in general terms:
what is the salary of a diocesan priest...
what benefits...
what does the diocese cover and what is he responsible for?
I assume that parish houses are "rent free" but they have to buy their own cars...what about insurance? Do they have to pay a portion?

Thanks for any input....

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Old May 15, '13, 6:00 am
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The numbers in this article seem to be a bit lower than I remember.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobile...n_1204870.html

Remember also that the term "catholic priest" is broad. Diocesan priests (the parish priest "employed" by the (arch)diocese) receive a salary. Priests that belong to religious orders have no salary. They receive a stipend, as their costs are covered by the religious order. For example, last time I checked, if I remember correctly, priests of the Society of Jesus (the Jesuits) receive a stipend of $35 a week.

Good luck in your research.
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At our former parish, the priest that was there five years ago made $18,000/year. His car had been his dad's, he lived in the parish house. I don't know if he had any other benefits or not. He relied on the generosity of the parishoners for many of his needs. He was very frugal.
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10 years ago, my understanding was that priests received about $1000/month (presumably after taxes), out of which they had to pay for their car and auto insurance, which seems to leave them with very little left over! They get health insurance through the diocese, and with those numbers, I would say their housing costs as well, including utilities, but these latter may be paid for from the parish itself rather than the diocese.

I know one priest who mentioned that he quit smoking because the expense was so high and if he quit, he'd have more money for charity--how about that!
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I live in the UK
Most parish priests live on the donation made on Christmas Day and on Easter Sunday, plus any small stipend they are offered to say a mass for a specific intention. (no more that 10 per stipend, no more than 1 stipend per day)

When discussing this with priests in several dioceses I have been told that they actually live on a "Salary" deliberately targeted to be below the income tax threshold - to ensure that donations to the church are not passed on to the Government as Income Tax. - This sets them to live below the nationally defined "Poverty line" -
As others have commented, however they are normally provided with a home and a car, for which any use that is necessary for their duties would be funded from parish or diocesan funds. In many cases the full costs of running the Presbytery would come from parish funds and not from the priests stipend, therefore this small sum of money does not have to stretch as far as it would for most people who pay their own rent and bills.

In the past couple of years the "Tax free allowance" for people in the UK has almost doubled and is now just under 10,000. It used to be closer to the 4,000 mark, and has been deliberately and rapidly increased by the current government as part of a restructuring of Tax and welfare benefits. I know my parish priest only takes around 4,500 per year (plus a house and car that belong to and are funded by the parish).

My package where I work is worth around 10 times that much! - & with a wife and 2 kids I often struggle to get from one end of the month to the other.
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Wow! I had idea it was so low.
More respect to our priests now that I know.
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Our diocesan pastors receive $40,000 or so per year in salary, plus car allowance, health insurance, pension funding and clerical cllothing alllowance. And of course, their housing, food and housekeeping expenses are paid through their parishes.
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That sounds better...
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Ann Arbour:
$40,000 per year plus all those other perks sounds like a huge sum of money? what do they do with it all?
Are you sure that isn't including all those other allowances?
A single person just doesn't need that much money, and priests are supposed to live a life which expresses a spirit of poverty - even if diocesan priests don't take a vow of poverty.
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It's about 20-30K in our Archdiocese, plus a food allowance. Housing is provided by the parish as a parish expense. There is a housing allowance if the priest is on an assignment that cannot provide housing (such as hospital chaplaincy)

I don't know about car and fuel allowance, but I would think that a pastor could expense 'work' related travel to the parish just as any secular employee could.
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Our diocesan pastors receive $40,000 or so per year in salary, plus car allowance, health insurance, pension funding and clerical cllothing alllowance. And of course, their housing, food and housekeeping expenses are paid through their parishes.
This sounds really high. How did you come to know that figure?
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Our diocesan pastors receive $40,000 or so per year in salary, plus car allowance, health insurance, pension funding and clerical cllothing alllowance. And of course, their housing, food and housekeeping expenses are paid through their parishes.
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Ann Arbour:
$40,000 per year plus all those other perks sounds like a huge sum of money? what do they do with it all?
Are you sure that isn't including all those other allowances?
A single person just doesn't need that much money, and priests are supposed to live a life which expresses a spirit of poverty - even if diocesan priests don't take a vow of poverty.
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This sounds really high. How did you come to know that figure?
Ann - I'm curious too... This seems to be quite a bit more than many other diocese.
What part of the country is this in? I wonder if "cost of living' could be a factor in this variation.

hhmmmm

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Thanks everyone for your input.
Someone mentioned stipends and I hadn't thought of that aspect - thanks.

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Ann - I'm curious too... This seems to be quite a bit more than many other diocese.
What part of the country is this in? I wonder if "cost of living' could be a factor in this variation.

hhmmmm

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What cost of living? There is hardly anything left off of AnnArbor's list that a priest would actually need to spend his $40,000 on. Sounds like these priests will all be multi-millionaires in retirement.
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Our diocesan pastors receive $40,000 or so per year in salary, plus car allowance, health insurance, pension funding and clerical cllothing alllowance. And of course, their housing, food and housekeeping expenses are paid through their parishes.
It might be high, relatively speaking. But when you look at the job description, it's certainly not generous. I have no idea what our pastor makes here in Pennsylvania.

He's the only priest in our parish. It's a 24/7/365 job. He shepherds a family of several hundred people from earthly birth to earthly death, in sickness and in health. He's ultimately responsible for the physical plant. The staff. Religious ed., etc. Everything is on his shoulders.

And I have never seen the man flinch in the face of it all. Not once have I seen him lose his temper, look tired, or slow down.

That being said, obviously he's not looking for a reward of $$$.
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