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Old Jun 16, '13, 9:23 am
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I did debate on where to ask this question. I hope I picked the correct place. As I am not posting a news story, I figured my question did belong in "World News." I'm guessing that the Syrians are fighting for social justice, so I thought I'd post my question here.

I understand why the people of the Middle East have a battle going on with the western world, but I'm at a total loss of why Syria is fighting itself.

Without being political, could someone please tell me why they are fighting in Syria?

Also, if you don't mind. what is the Arab Spring?
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Old Jun 16, '13, 11:23 am
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They are fighting for the same reasons that we have groups like WBC, Chick, the KKK, NOI, and other religions that do not agree with any one else and tell the other groups that they are going to hell. It is that we are usually a bit less violent about it.
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Old Jun 16, '13, 11:27 am
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Basically, it boils down to the populace being tired of the greedy "crony capitalist" leadership, demanding his resignation, being branded traitors, protesting, then resisting when the military were sent to disperse the protests.
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Old Jun 16, '13, 11:32 am
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In 1971 Hafez Al Assad seized power in Syria. He was the leader of Syria from 1971 to 2000. In 2000 his son Bashar Al Assad became the leader of Syrian. The Al Assad family is of the Alawite branch of Islam while Syria is a Sunni Muslim Country. The Alawite Muslims of Syria are favored over the Sunni majority. In 1981 the Sunnis revolted against Hafez Al Assad and he had the military carry out a massacre on the Sunnis that participated in the revolt.

Syria is a dictatorship with 90% of the population are treated like second class citizens. The people of Syria want democracy and they wanted to be led by a Sunni lead government as opposed to being lead by the minority. There has been a lot of blood shed and loss of human life. What is truly unfortunate is that even if the people of Syria are successful in overthrowing Bashar Al Assad it is not clear if the people of Syria will have democracy or another dictatorship to replace the Al Assad family and the Alawites.
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Old Jun 16, '13, 12:47 pm
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Thanks for the feedback, especially yours wllmjoseph.. I know I shouldn't be, but I'm stunned that this is a religious issue. When I see this on the news and people are in the street rioting, I just wonder how they know who their enemy is. How sad.
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Old Jun 16, '13, 2:39 pm
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A news anchor described it as "Alien vs. Predator". They're both bad. Unfortunately, with all the children and innocent people being killed, we almost have to take sides just to stop the bloodshed.
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Old Jun 16, '13, 7:10 pm
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Nandarani, you missed this part of my post...

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Old Jun 16, '13, 9:58 pm
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In 1971 Hafez Al Assad seized power in Syria. He was the leader of Syria from 1971 to 2000. In 2000 his son Bashar Al Assad became the leader of Syrian. The Al Assad family is of the Alawite branch of Islam while Syria is a Sunni Muslim Country. The Alawite Muslims of Syria are favored over the Sunni majority. In 1981 the Sunnis revolted against Hafez Al Assad and he had the military carry out a massacre on the Sunnis that participated in the revolt.

Syria is a dictatorship with 90% of the population are treated like second class citizens. The people of Syria want democracy and they wanted to be led by a Sunni lead government as opposed to being lead by the minority. There has been a lot of blood shed and loss of human life. What is truly unfortunate is that even if the people of Syria are successful in overthrowing Bashar Al Assad it is not clear if the people of Syria will have democracy or another dictatorship to replace the Al Assad family and the Alawites.
If the rebels are mad at the Alawites for treating them badly, why are they (rebels) slaughtering Christians?
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The reason the rebels are killing the Christians of Syria is that they are using the uprising as an opportunity to persecute and kill the Christian minority in Syria. All around it is a horrible situation.
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I did debate on where to ask this question. I hope I picked the correct place. As I am not posting a news story, I figured my question did belong in "World News." I'm guessing that the Syrians are fighting for social justice, so I thought I'd post my question here.

I understand why the people of the Middle East have a battle going on with the western world, but I'm at a total loss of why Syria is fighting itself.

Without being political, could someone please tell me why they are fighting in Syria?

Also, if you don't mind. what is the Arab Spring?
there are multiple different sides in this conflict:

There are those on Assad's side, the Baathists. Baathism incorporates some elements of Islamism but is ultimately a version of National Socialism which believes that Arabs, rather than Germanic groups (as believed by the original National Socialists) are superior.

There are several Islamic groups states such as Hezbollah and Iran which support Assad and belong to Shia Islam (more on this later in the post).

There are several Islamic groups which figure prominently in the rebellion such as Hamas and Al Qaeda which belong to Sunni Islam. (more on this later in the post).

There is the FSA (Free Syrian Army) which is the major rebellion group which is composed largely, though not totally, of Islamic terrorists.

There are several other rebellion groups such as those representing the Kurds which are generally at least partially pro western and are opposed to both the FSA and Assad.



The civil war began with protests grown out of the Arab Spring in March of 2011. This were peaceful protests which demanded reform and transparency which were cracked down on by Assad's government. Eventually rebel groups began forming militias such as the FSA and began actively fighting back against Assad. By 2012 terrorists flooded Syria and began to play a prominent role in the uprising. The Arab Spring is a term for the group of protests which occurred in the Arab world. In December 2010 protests which resulted in the overthrow of the Tunisian government began in Tunisia, and spread the following month to Egypt. After a few months another revolution occurred in Yemen and a civil war began in Libya. These protests were originally supported by those supporting liberty, however many of them were organized by far leftest groups and the organizing of protests eventually fell into the hands of Islamic groups such as the Muslim Brotherhood.


Shia vs. Sunni

As I said before I would get to this. Generally Hamas and Hezbollah fight together against Israel, or at least support each other, however when conflict emerges that doesn't involve Israel that partnership generally breaks down. They belong to two opposing sects of Islam, the Shia sect and the Sunni sect. The differences between the two revolve around the successor to Muhammad. The Sunni believe that a successor was to be chosen by an election of the Ummah (the Muslim community) to lead the Caliphate. The Shia believe in a more monarchist like system in which leadership stayed among Muhammad's relatives. Sunni Islam is generally believed to be the more Orthodox sect of Islam, with Shia being akin to sort of a Protestantism of Islam. For more information this is a good overview http://islam.about.com/cs/divisions/f/shia_sunni.htm
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I'm guessing that in the end Syria may exchange the Assad dictatorship for a Muslim Brotherhood dictatorship, with the help of the U.S. Will a Muslim Brotherhood dictatorship be worse than Assad? For Christians, probably so.
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Nandarandi, I appreciate what you say. Thanks for posting it.

We need more true civilian control over the military. Period.
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The Syrian "rebels" are Islamic jihadists wanting to take control of Syria the way they did to Egypt and the way they want to do to the whole Middle East and North Africa region. That's what the "Arab Spring" is about. To give you an idea of their character, these "rebels" have beheaded at least one Christian. There are no good guys in the fight. As we should know from the Muslim Brotherhood turning Egypt into a Sharia Law run Islamic dictatorship, President Assad isn't as bad as what will replace him if the "rebels" take over. Assad has had a relatively secular form of government that has been relatively tolerant to Christians. If the "rebels" take over the government the Christians will be killed, persecuted, and forced to leave just as it happened in Egypt and in Iraq.

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Basically, it boils down to the populace being tired of the greedy "crony capitalist" leadership, demanding his resignation, being branded traitors, protesting, then resisting when the military were sent to disperse the protests.
Really? Why are most of the "rebel" fighters foreigners?


http://deadlinelive.info/2012/10/05/...igence-report/
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Old Jun 19, '13, 4:24 am
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Really? Why are most of the "rebel" fighters foreigners?


http://deadlinelive.info/2012/10/05/...igence-report/
At the start, they were not.
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