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Old Jul 14, '13, 5:49 pm
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Default Is St Michael the Angel of Death in the Old Testament?

Not really a vital question, but just something I was curious about as I was reading, since they seem to fulfill very similar roles. There's also several occasions in the Old Testament where there is mentioned "The Angel of the Lord". Do we have any commentary on this or are these unnamed angels that carried out God's will on certain occasions?
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Not really a vital question, but just something I was curious about as I was reading, since they seem to fulfill very similar roles. There's also several occasions in the Old Testament where there is mentioned "The Angel of the Lord". Do we have any commentary on this or are these unnamed angels that carried out God's will on certain occasions?
I believe that Michael was indeed the angel of death.
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Speaking of which, can/do Catholics believe that St. Michael is the Angel of the Lord? (just in general)
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I think that is more of a description than a title. (And one which Michael and all holy angels fit)
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Not really a vital question, but just something I was curious about as I was reading, since they seem to fulfill very similar roles. There's also several occasions in the Old Testament where there is mentioned "The Angel of the Lord". Do we have any commentary on this or are these unnamed angels that carried out God's will on certain occasions?
If you me the angel(s) that executed God's wrath, an "Angel of Death." Then Psalm 77:49 has your answer! "And he sent upon them (Egypt) the wrath of his indignation: indignation and wrath and trouble, which he sent by evil angels"
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If you me the angel(s) that executed God's wrath, an "Angel of Death." Then Psalm 77:49 has your answer! "And he sent upon them (Egypt) the wrath of his indignation: indignation and wrath and trouble, which he sent by evil angels"
Evil in this case doesn't necessarily mean that the angels themselves were evil, but rather they brought chastisements (Which the recipients would call evil.) If it meant what it sounded like then we would have to believe that God took evil actions, because elsewhere in the old testament it says that God did evil. For example:

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Is this is an older translation you are using? I know 'evil' in English once upon a time was synonymous with 'disaster'. I.E: there was an evil snowstorm last night. But that is no longer used in contemporary English.
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Yes he is the Angel of Death in the OT.

Don't mess with St Michael the Archangel.

He has already given Satan a hiding.

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Evil in this case doesn't necessarily mean that the angels themselves were evil, but rather they brought chastisements (Which the recipients would call evil.) If it meant what it sounded like then we would have to believe that God took evil actions, because elsewhere in the old testament it says that God did evil. For example:

Your explanation might be right, but....

"Saying to the sixth angel, who had the trumpet: Loose the four angels, who are bound in the great river Euphrates. And the four angels were loosed, who were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year: for to kill the third part of men." Apocalypse 9:14 - 16

These angels are bound because they're fallen or evil, and bring punishment on men.
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Not really a vital question, but just something I was curious about as I was reading, since they seem to fulfill very similar roles. There's also several occasions in the Old Testament where there is mentioned "The Angel of the Lord". Do we have any commentary on this or are these unnamed angels that carried out God's will on certain occasions?
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