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Old Jan 16, '14, 10:28 am
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Can anyone post pictures of what these different cassocks look like? Thank you, and all clergy should wear clerical garb IMHO, including (perhaps especially, and always when doing parish work) permanent deacons.
It is more than a little difficult to tell in pictures. But as Br. JR suggested I went to the popes.

Roman Cassock in white

Jesuit Cassock in white

I thought these were best to illustrate the difference in shape of the bottom.
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Can anyone post pictures of what these different cassocks look like? Thank you, and all clergy should wear clerical garb IMHO, including (perhaps especially, and always when doing parish work) permanent deacons.
An Oratorian cassock

Here is a picture of Saint John Baptist de lasalle wearing his rabat, I can't really find a modern example.
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Thank you, gentlemen. Now I have another question--do only priest (which would include bishops) wear cassocks (whether Roman, French, Jesuit or whatever) or do deacons (be they transitional or permanent) likewise wear them? Thanks.
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When is the "purple" or crimson cassock worn?
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Can anyone post pictures of what these different cassocks look like? Thank you, and all clergy should wear clerical garb IMHO, including (perhaps especially, and always when doing parish work) permanent deacons.
I agree with you. In its strict words so does Canon law. However in many dioceses the deacons are instructed not to wear clerical dress except with special permission (the direct opposite of normal Canon law).
Bishops do have the right to alert Canon law in their own diocese within a fairly broad scope so these variations would probably be found to be within their competence to decide.
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When is the "purple" or crimson cassock worn?
Purple - bishops and sometimes monsignors.
Red - cardinals.
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I agree with you. In its strict words so does Canon law. However in many dioceses the deacons are instructed not to wear clerical dress except with special permission (the direct opposite of normal Canon law).
Bishops do have the right to alert Canon law in their own diocese within a fairly broad scope so these variations would probably be found to be within their competence to decide.
I wonder if there are any bishops who frequent these boards who might be able to cast some light on these issues? I would love to hear what a bishop has to say, just to become better educated on these things.
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When is the "purple" or crimson cassock worn?
The purple and Crimson cassock would be generally worn by a bishop and cardinal respectfully, during liturgical functions, where his black cassock with the colored trimmings are for everyday wear.

In the US, I have never seen a permanent deacon wear a cassock, but I have seen transitional deacons and even seminarians (above a certain study level) wear the cassock. (In some dioceses), it depends on what the bishop allows.
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I wonder if there are any bishops who frequent these boards who might be able to cast some light on these issues? I would love to hear what a bishop has to say, just to become better educated on these things.
Haha, probably not too often, but you never know!
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Also, if you see a priest in a white cassock and he isn't the Pope Francis or Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI, he's most likely a Norbertine.
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Also, if you see a priest in a white cassock and he isn't the Pope Francis or Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI, he's most likely a Norbertine.
LOL, that or from some of the hot climate dioceses, where they can wear white, especially South East Asia.
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LOL, that or from some of the hot climate dioceses, where they can wear white, especially South East Asia.
Well, those ones have a colored trim, the Norbertines ones are plain white. The Norbertine Abbot even wears the shoulder cape with his cassock and a pectoral cross, but I don't think the skullcap is part of his normal wear. He does have a white biretta, though.
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Also, if you see a priest in a white cassock and he isn't the Pope Francis or Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI, he's most likely a Norbertine.
LOL

Actually, the Claretians wear the same cassock as the pope. St. Anthony Mary Claret was a bishop. So his priests and brothers wear the same cassock as a bishop. In the tropics, they wear it in white. It's not bleached white. It's the same white as the pope wears.
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Actually, the Claretians wear the same cassock as the pope. St. Anthony Mary Claret was a bishop. So his priests and brothers wear the same cassock as a bishop. In the tropics, they wear it in white. It's not bleached white. It's the same white as the pope wears.
Silly me, I thought it was a Dominican habit.
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An Oratorian cassock

Here is a picture of Saint John Baptist de lasalle wearing his rabat, I can't really find a modern example.
The Orartorian cassock looks the same as the Redemptorist cassock and also like the habit of the Franciscan Brothers of the Holy Cross (FFSC) except that the Brothers add a scapular and Franciscan cord.
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