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Jan 27, '06, 7:08 am
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Re: Sen. Kerry calls for filibuster of Alito
We need the church to make a public statement that Kerry is not a catholic and should stop claiming that he is.
Where are the church leaders today calling for men like this to repent?
Are they afraid that their heads will be put on a plate like john the baptist?
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Jan 27, '06, 7:19 am
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Re: Sen. Kerry calls for filibuster of Alito
Kerry is an outright disgrace! He is afraid that America might not be able to murder millions of babies because of this nominee. This man is possessed by demons!
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Jan 27, '06, 8:15 am
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Re: Sen. Kerry calls for filibuster of Alito
The following statement by Ted (Orca) Kennedy in the above posted newslink has got to be capable of stopping a clock.
"This is a vote of a generation and a test of conscience." "Judge Alito does not share the values of equality and justice that make this country strong. He does not deserve a place on the highest court of the land".
Got to get out the room "odor remover spray" after reading it.
HOW could Ted Kennedy have anything to say about a test of conscience after swimming his way out of any equal justice?
Perhaps recalling his days at the bridge and his role in the death of Joann Kopechne worries him - what if he had to go before a good judge like Judge Alito? Probably the thought gives him nightmares. I hope!
Money can buy years of power and influence but not let you pass a test of conscience!
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Jan 27, '06, 9:43 am
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Re: Sen. Kerry calls for filibuster of Alito
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Got to get out the room "odor remover spray" after reading it.
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How Kennedy stays in office is one the great mysteries of my life time.
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Jan 27, '06, 10:43 am
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Originally Posted by Mickey
How Kennedy stays in office is one the great mysteries of my life time. 
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How Massechussetts, home of John Adams, John Quincy Adams, Paul Revere, Samuel Adams (lots of Adams?), Ben Frankin (born in Boston) could have evolved from being a pioneer in liberty, freedom, to the kind of political garbage put forth by Kerry and Kennedy are beyond me.
I'll provide some quotes to highlight the differences:
“The truth is, all might be free if they valued freedom, and defended it as they ought.” Samuel Adams
“The Constitution shall never be construed... to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.” – Samuel Adams
"The highest glory of the American Revolution was this; it connected, in one indissoluble bond the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity." - John Quincy Adams
"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." - John Quincy Adams
“Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say 'what should be the reward of such sacrifices?' Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship and plough, and sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!” – Samuel Adams
“Among the natural rights of the colonists are these: First a right to life, secondly to liberty, and thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can” - Samuel Adams
“Yesterday the greatest question was decided which ever was debated in America; and a greater perhaps never was, nor will be, decided among men. A resolution was passed without one dissenting colony, ''that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States.'' - John Adams
"You have rights antecedent to all earthly governments: rights that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws; rights derived from the Great Legislator of the universe." - John Adams
"We have no government armed in power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Our Constitution was made only for a religious and moral people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other." - John Adams
"Statesmen, my dear Sir, may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is religion and morality alone, which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free Constitution is pure virtue, and if this cannot be inspired into our People in a greater Measure than they have it now, they may change their rulers and the forms of government, but they will not obtain a lasting liberty." - John Adams
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Jan 27, '06, 10:46 am
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How Massechussetts,
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I don't want to nitpick but isn't Virginia is the birthplace of the separation of Church and state.
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Jan 27, '06, 10:47 am
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A lot of us wonder that here in MA....
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Jan 27, '06, 10:48 am
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Originally Posted by JamesG
We need the church to make a public statement that Kerry is not a catholic and should stop claiming that he is.
Where are the church leaders today calling for men like this to repent?
Are they afraid that their heads will be put on a plate like john the baptist?
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My question also. And don't forget Teddy, and Leahy and Biden. When "Catholics" make pronouncement like this and the Church is totally silent, it leaves wiggle room for the folks that like to progosticate against the Church. Yes, I know they excommunicated themselves, but when do we see this in the press?
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Jan 27, '06, 10:52 am
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Senator Durbin, the minority whip, has already said that there isn't enough support for a filibuster. Yes, the very same Senator Durbin who voted against Alito in committee, but is the one who is responsible for making head counts for pre-vote support, has publicly announced that he doesn't believe that the Democrats have enough support on their side to support a filibuster.
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Exactly they don't have enough support - and I think that most of the Democrats are embarrassed by Kerry's latest remarks.
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Jan 27, '06, 10:56 am
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Exactly they don't have enough support - and I think that most of the Democrats are embarrassed by Kerry's latest remarks.
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Sen. Kerry was playing to the enthusiastic wing of the party knowing full well that he would not be able to deliver. While this helps in position for the 08 presidential race, it hurts his party. To me this shows where his true loyalties lie.
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Jan 27, '06, 10:58 am
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I don't want to nitpick but isn't Virginia is the birthplace of the separation of Church and state.
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No? Where'd you come up with that?
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Jan 27, '06, 11:02 am
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Sen. Kerry was playing to the enthusiastic wing of the party knowing full well that he would not be able to deliver. While this helps in position for the 08 presidential race, it hurts his party. To me this shows where his true loyalties lie.
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It just makes him look like a total fool to me and a lot of others.
Remember, he's the Catholic that was an altar boy that is personally against abortion BUT supports a woman's right to have an abortion
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Jan 27, '06, 11:06 am
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No? Where'd you come up with that?
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Thomas Jefferson was the original proponent of the separation of Church and State. He wrote the prohibition of a state sponsored religion in to the US Constitution but had the much more restrictive church - state wall in his personal writings. The idea was subsiquently adopted to one degree or another in most Western countries.
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Jan 27, '06, 11:09 am
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Re: Sen. Kerry calls for filibuster of Alito
Imagine if a private citizen (or a politician for that matter) were to come out and say:
I am personally against murdering U.S. Senators, but I support a person's right to do so if he or she feels that to be the best course of action.
Or
I am personally opposed to shoplifting, but I support a hungry person's right to do so if they have no other means of obtaining food.
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Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable - a most sacred right - a right, which we hope and believe, is to liberate the world.
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Jan 27, '06, 11:26 am
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Remember, he's the Catholic that was an altar boy that is personally against abortion BUT supports a woman's right to have an abortion
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That boils my blood!
Lord have mercy on me.
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