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Old Mar 19, '13, 4:39 am
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Default Re: Red mozzetta? Coat of Arms?

Originally Posted by Marie5890 View Post
Thanks for that, Bro.
I was watching and noticed the different chasubles right off the bat. I was curious as to their design and style.
It was a beautiful and reverent Mass, and it's simplicity wasnt a distraction at all, at least for me.

I read that Pope Francis' Fisherman ring is slightly different from others. Instead of being of solid gold, it is gold plated silver.
The chasubles that the cardinals were wearing were originally designed for Franciscans back in the 13th century. The design came from the first habit that St. Francis wore. The original habit did not look anything like what we wear today. The closest habit to the original would be the one worn by the Capuchin Franciscan Friars. It's a simple tunic with a cowl attached to it. However, the original was grey with a Tau drawn on the chest using charcoal.

For those who don't know what the Tau is, it's the last letter of the Hebrew alphabet. It's very much like the upper case T. Later, as the number of brother-priests increased someone came up with a chasuble that had the T on it in honor of our Holy Father Francis (not the pope, the other Holy Father). It was what is called the Roman cut, which is like a huge circle rather than the fiddle back. I'm not sure when the fiddle back came into existence, but I know that it's a newer design.

The cardinals today wore the classic Roman-Franciscan chasuble with the Tau on the chest. Granted, it's not a beautiful vestment as some of the more elaborate fiddle backs are. To be honest, this one was not beautiful at all. Personally, I didn't like the combination of colors. However, they got the design correct.

It was also interesting to note that during the homily the Holy Father brought St. Francis into it several times. At some point, can't remember which prayer it was, he invoked St. Francis of Assisi along with St. Joseph. He also included St. Francis of Assisi into the canon, which I found interesting. The only ones who have permission to insert St. Francis into the Canon and into the Confetior are the Franciscans. I guess that if you're the pope and you're going to model your papacy on St. Francis of Assisi, you can do whatever you want. Who's going to say, "Hey, you can't do that."

It was also very striking that the servers were not only Franciscan brothers, but they did not wear cassocks. Instead, they wore the surplus over their habits and no shoes. Of course, these are the friars from Mt. LaVerna, where St. Francis received the stigmata. They don't wear shoes, even in winter.

There was also a strong Jesuit influence in the Holy Father's own vestments. They followed the simple and unpretentious Jesuit style. The Jesuits have always shunned any form of extravagance in vestments for mass. This is a tradition that goes back to the 1500s.

For those who are worried about tradition, there was a lot of tradition there. It was simply tradition that is not usually seen in secular circles. Since posts during that last 150+ years have been secular Catholics, we have not been exposed to this part of Catholic tradition.

Palm Sunday and Holy Week will tell if we're going to see more tradition coming from the religious life. I think that it will be good for the Latin Church. We've become very comfortable with secular clergy and hierarchy. Few dioceses have regular bishops. The result has been that the average traditionalist does not know or has forgotten that religious schools have traditions that are very much a part of Church life.

Many of the elements in the Ordinary Form of the mass and even in the architectural design of churches comes from religious orders. To the person who does not know this, it all seems very new. The fact is that it's very old.

I guess we'll know more come next Sunday at Palm Sunday mass, which will be the pope's next big public mass.

Obviously, he did not wear the mozzetta when he arrived, nor did he wear the gold cross that was made for him as is the case for every pope. He wears the silver cross of his episcopacy.

I heard the same thing that you did about the ring. That has a very reasonable explanation. Religious in solemn vows do not wear gold. Jesuits make solemn vows. He also changed the design of the ring. Someone explained what the new design is, but I can't recall right now.

It was also important to notice that he did not use the cathedra to preach. This is also a very Jesuit custom. Jesuit bishops (the few that there are) do not use the cathedra, because it's a royal symbol. St. Ignatius banned all forms of the regal from the Jesuit order.

Being a religious myself, I know how much it is drummed into our heads to avoid all of these things, to the point that they make us feel very uncomfortable. Think about it this way. It takes 10 years to become a solemnly professed male religious. That's the reason that there are so few communities in solemn vows. Most make simple vows. The formation is shorter. During the 10 years, the idea of simplicity and shunning anything that makes you look like a secular priest is drummed into you to the point that you have to push yourself, when you do have to accommodate. This may take some time for him or he may never do it. We'll just have to wait it out. The good part is that he is not being liturgically sloppy. He's just being a religious.

We'll be doing a lot of learning and a lot of surprises are yet to come.

Brother JR, FFV

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