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Old Apr 15, '05, 11:12 am
JPrejean JPrejean is offline
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Default Re: Can a Pope be impeached?

I guess what I'm having a hard time understanding is in every other position of authority (at least in the USA) there is a system of checks and balances. But since no one but God himself is over the Pope - do we just abide by whatever he (the Pope) decrees and hope that if he goes off the deep end, God takes care of it? This is so contrary to my deep Protestant roots whereby if a Pastor starts teaching stuff that's off the wall, the elders can have him removed. That's why I'm asking - I truly serious, although by my examples I can see why you'd think I was being silly.
No one else has authority to remove him, but that doesn't mean that he can't remove himself by openly professing a heretical belief that would declare him outside the church (which would cause him to cease to be Pope). Nor does it mean that one is obliged to obey commands contrary to natural law or church dogma, which are beyond even the power of the Pope to enact. It's the same situation as a soldier who is given an unlawful order by a commanding officer. The soldier does not have to obey the unlawful order, but he had better be right, because he will certainly be judged for his refusal. If it's simply a matter of quirky notions of penance and the like that aren't entirely irrational and don't rise to the level of actually contradicting divine law, then that's simply something one has to suffer with patience.
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Old Apr 15, '05, 11:18 am
Seeks God Seeks God is offline
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Default Re: Can a Pope be impeached?

he can't be removed by sources other than his own, but in addition his infallible teachings are only relevant to matters of morals and faith and are done in UNION with the bishops...I don't believe he acts alone in infallible teachings
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Old Apr 15, '05, 1:01 pm
Amadeus Amadeus is offline
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Default Re: Can a Pope be impeached?

The Church is infallible having been built by Our Lord, Jesus Christ, himself!

However, we Catholics believe that there are 3 organs through which the Church expresses such infallibility:

(1) through an Ecumenical Council presided by the Pope or by his legate;

(2) through the body of bishops in union with the Pope; and

(3) through the Pope alone when he speaks ex cathedra as defined by Vatican I.

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Old Apr 15, '05, 2:22 pm
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Default Re: Can a Pope be impeached?

Thanks for your replies. My question was answered in the Ask an Apologetetics forum. I'd post that link if I knew how God Bless, CM
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Old Apr 16, '05, 12:27 pm
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Suppose the new Pope decided to make all sorts of new rules like no coffee or donuts can be served at church

- and no meat [...] on Friday
Yeah, the way it was before.
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Old Apr 17, '05, 7:38 am
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to scot_lafrance:

that was good..daffy duck for pope....
i don't have much of a sense of humor, but that was good.
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