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Old Jan 5, '12, 6:12 pm
Candide West Candide West is offline
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Default Re: Evidence for Design?

Originally Posted by tonyrey View Post
Design is not a substitute for explanations. It is an explanation of explanations!
You said "design explains..." I was agreeing with you that "design" in a broad sense can explain more or less anything you want it to. But that isn't evidence that such a design exists. To be fair I don't think your original point was that it did. So my statement may well have been moot.

Originally Posted by tonyrey View Post
*God cannot be used to explain fortuitous events or human decisions.
And yet God very often IS used to explain fortuitous events and human decisions. I have personally witnessed people thanking God for things that I'd done for them, or events with a large degree of chance such as just avoiding a car crash. In both cases the people concerned honestly believed that God had intervened to help them. Either through luck or agency of people.

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*No one has ever explained the increase in complexity.
Yes, they have. In fact every competently written book on evolution and evolutionary biology that I've ever read explains increasing complexity. It's really one of the key features of the whole deal.*

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*On the contrary. All the laws of the universe require a rational explanation.
And scientists are of course trying to understand why the laws of the physics etc are the way they are. But nobody seems to have a complete picture yet.

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*If they're not laws how do explain the success of science?
Well it depends what you mean by a "law" I guess. There is certainly some evidence that the "universal constants" may not be constant and there's now a hefty lump of doubt on whether the "universal speed limit" can actually be broken etc.

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*I'm not positing any being. I am inferring that rational, purposeful activity has a rational, purposeful cause.
Fair enough, but you are saying that x, y and z appear to have been designed. But if I'm to have any confidence in your ability to tell me that some things are designed, then you have to be able to tell the difference between designed and not-designed.*

So... What do you mean by designed as opposed to undesigned? Also how can we tell whether one thing we look at is designed while another is not. Also perhaps some examples? What things in the universe do you believe were not subjected to a design process?

Originally Posted by tonyrey View Post
*Why do you think SETI is doing?
It is searching for signals which appear to have been generated by intelligent life. One of the keys things in such a project was to define what we would expect to observe in signals generated by intelligent life. Perhaps with answers to the above questions we'll be able to progress in this direction.

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