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Old Nov 1, '12, 6:22 pm
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...to discover that I really love the TLM!!! I have a charismatic spirituality but attended a TLM last week for Christ the King and actually really loved the prayers and solemnity. Just wanted to share that I found it beautiful.
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Old Nov 1, '12, 6:58 pm
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I am wondering, however, the reason why the priest is supposed to be inaudible to the congregation during some of the prayers...Does anyone know the reason? I appreciated that someone I sat next to helped me to follow along. That was very kind.
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I am wondering, however, the reason why the priest is supposed to be inaudible to the congregation during some of the prayers...Does anyone know the reason? I appreciated that someone I sat next to helped me to follow along. That was very kind.
I heard it explained that there are parts of the Mass that are the priest's private prayer and those are the ones said very quietly. There are some of those in the OF Mass too but we often don't notice since they often are when we are singing.
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Thanks, Corki! I appreciate your answer. It would seem weird to me, however, for almost the entire Eucharistic prayer to be the private prayer of the priest. I guess, as beautiful as this mass is, that I am just used to and more happy with being able to hear and actively participate.
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I'd really like to attend one of these. How did you find yours? Is there a website or something that lists where TLM's are held?
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I'd really like to attend one of these. How did you find yours? Is there a website or something that lists where TLM's are held?
http://www.ecclesiadei.org/masses.cfm

All Masses listed there have the full approval of the Church.
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I guess, as beautiful as this mass is, that I am just used to and more happy with being able to hear and actively participate.
Those of us who assist at the EF Mass all the time have not sacrificed active participation for solemnity: we have both. Its a different kind of spirituality. After getting immersed in the traditional Mass I find it very difficult to actively participate at the OF, to be honest. Perhaps its about what we're used to.
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http://www.ecclesiadei.org/masses.cfm

All Masses listed there have the full approval of the Church.

Thank you!!


hmm, there are a number in relatively close proximity to me. I'll definitely have to attend one.
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Those of us who assist at the EF Mass all the time have not sacrificed active participation for solemnity: we have both. Its a different kind of spirituality. After getting immersed in the traditional Mass I find it very difficult to actively participate at the OF, to be honest. Perhaps its about what we're used to.
Hey, Rich C! Do you know why so many of the prayers are said quietly by the priest? I am sure there is a good reason, just wondering.

BTW...I St. Francis de Sales!
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I'd really like to attend one of these. How did you find yours? Is there a website or something that lists where TLM's are held?

I am glad that Rich C shared that website, especially as I will not be living where I am for long now. (I am a college student.) The mass I went to was on campus.

On another note, does anyone know- if I attended mass at a "normal" parish with the EF, would I have to dress up for a daily mass or would I be able to dress like I would normally, (clean, modest, casual?) I would dress up normally for a Sunday mass. Also, are slacks with a nice top considered to be "okay?" Just wondering because I would not want to cause offense.
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I am glad that Rich C shared that website, especially as I will not be living where I am for long now. (I am a college student.) The mass I went to was on campus.

On another note, does anyone know- if I attended mass at a "normal" parish with the EF, would I have to dress up for a daily mass or would I be able to dress like I would normally, (clean, modest, casual?) I would dress up normally for a Sunday mass. Also, are slacks with a nice top considered to be "okay?" Just wondering because I would not want to cause offense.
Beyond Catholic modesty, there is no dress code.

Speaking from experience Catholics dress much more for the EF than for the OF (men in suits is common, ties almost universal, women in skirts/dress, and children in sportcoats or dresses).

I don't think anyone would be offended by the modest, tasteful mode of dress you suggested, however.
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Slacks and tops are fine as long as they aren't tight or revealing. And around here (the dank and chilly Northeastern US,) there are plenty of women who attend the EF Mass wearing dress slacks and nice tops, as well as the fairly ubiquitous chapel veils.
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Hey, Rich C! Do you know why so many of the prayers are said quietly by the priest? I am sure there is a good reason, just wondering.

BTW...I St. Francis de Sales!
According to this abbreviated history of the Mass, when low Masses became common, the priest would say in a low voice at the low Mass those parts that others would have said or sung at a high Mass. And later, priests began saying those same prayers in a low voice at high Masses, too.

So it was sort of a historical accident, each step along the way a consequence or development of what preceded it, without the whole thing ever being designed from scratch. There was probably a practical aspect, too, to keeping most of the Mass fairly quiet, in times when there might be multiple Masses being said at the same time in a church. More peaceful, less distracting. (You can still see side altars in many older churches).

And I St. Francis de Sales as well. A great saint!
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In the OF Mass, soon after the gifts are presented, the priest will say some silent prayers over the gifts. like Corki said we usually singing.
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...to discover that I really love the TLM!!! I have a charismatic spirituality but attended a TLM last week for Christ the King and actually really loved the prayers and solemnity. Just wanted to share that I found it beautiful.
I'm not a fan of the TLM, but I'm happy you enjoyed it. I hope it brings you even closer to God.
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