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Old Aug 12, '17, 10:22 pm
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One unique difference between Mormonism and Christianity is how each views angels. In LDS theology, angels are resurrected human beings (Moroni for example). In Christianity, angels are an entirely difference race of beings from humans. I was wondering where Mormons got their concept of angels from because it's very different from historic Christianity and Judaism.
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In Mormonism, as I understand, everyone is essentially the same "species": God / gods, angels, men. We're all spirit children of the Heavenly Fatherly and Heavenly Mother(s)...and have to the potential to become as the Heavenly Father is. Man, angel, god are just different "stages" along the journey.
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One unique difference between Mormonism and Christianity is how each views angels. In LDS theology, angels are resurrected human beings (Moroni for example). In Christianity, angels are an entirely difference race of beings from humans. I was wondering where Mormons got their concept of angels from because it's very different from historic Christianity and Judaism.
The entry for angels in the Encyclopedia of Mormonism can be found here: http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Angels

I hope this helps.

Which sources do Orthodox Christianity use to determine that angels are an entirely difference race of beings from humans? Thanks.
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The entry for angels in the Encyclopedia of Mormonism can be found here: http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Angels

I hope this helps.

Which sources do Orthodox Christianity use to determine that angels are an entirely difference race of beings from humans? Thanks.
The Bible.
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First, angels existed BEFORE humans.
We are descended from Adam and Eve, our first parents. Human parents.
Angels are non-corporal. spiritual beings, who also have free will, but they have no bodies. They do not procreate.
They have no need to.
Humans do not "turn into angels" when they die. This is something that many epople tell children and each other to console someone at the loss of a loved one, but it is completely false. Nana is NOT an angel in heaven. She is a saint in heaven. Those that die in Christ, in a state of grace, are part of the communion of saints. They do not join the angelic choirs.

Here's another good link re: angels. http://www.ewtn.com/library/papaldoc/jp2angel.htm

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https://www.ewtn.com/faith/teachings/goda32a.htm
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First, angels existed BEFORE humans.
We are descended from Adam and Eve, our first parents. Human parents.
Angels are non-corporal. spiritual beings, who also have free will, but they have no bodies. They do not procreate.
They have no need to.
Humans do not "turn into angels" when they die. This is something that many epople tell children and each other to console someone at the loss of a loved one, but it is completely false. Nana is NOT an angel in heaven. She is a saint in heaven. Those that die in Christ, in a state of grace, are part of the communion of saints. They do not join the angelic choirs.

Here's another good link re: angels. http://www.ewtn.com/library/papaldoc/jp2angel.htm

and this:
https://www.ewtn.com/faith/teachings/goda32a.htm
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The Bible.
Nothing from Sacred Tradition?
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Nothing from Sacred Tradition?
Tons, but what's the point of pointing out Sacred Tradition to a Mormon? Mormons don't give a hoot what the ECF's said, or the Saints, or the Doctors of the Church, or Pope's, etc. Sometimes they will quote one here or there when it suits their purposes, but they really don't give them any credence because after all, Mormons believe the Church was in a state of total apostacy with no authority whatsoever. That's like you quoting from the BoM, the D&C, the BoA, etc. to me because I believe all those to be false scripture.
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http://www.jesus-passion.com/angels.htm

Aquinas on Angels.
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It would be better if you would just make your point yourself rather than submitting links.
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It would be better if you would just make your point yourself rather than submitting links.
Why would it be better? It never hurts to give out links so that another poster can read up on itself if they so choose.
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Nothing from Sacred Tradition?
Definitely. It's a tradition that is rooted in the Jewish tradition and then matured in the Christian Era. Various Fathers and saints have written on angels. Catholics believe that every one of us is assigned a guardian angel. We ask our angel's intercession throughout life's journey.
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It would be better if you would just make your point yourself rather than submitting links.
Why re=hash what Aquinas says so well?
Anyway, you're kind of unwilling to help the guy so.......

plus, I made my point earlier.

Angels don't turn into people and people don't turn into angels.
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Why re=hash what Aquinas says so well?
Anyway, you're kind of unwilling to help the guy so.......

plus, I made my point earlier.

Angels don't turn into people and people don't turn into angels.
Sorry that's my mistake. I thought it was gazelam that posted the link to Aquinas. You were just trying to be helpful. You made your points quite well in your earlier post.
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Sorry that's my mistake. I thought it was gazelam that posted the link to Aquinas. You were just trying to be helpful. You made your points quite well in your earlier post.



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