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Old Jul 14, '17, 8:23 am
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A week or two ago I was going to start a thread on the idea of “Straight Pride”, but I changed my mind after browsing the topic on the internet, because it appears to have become a very us-vs-them topic.

Then today I thought “Well rather than give up on the idea, what if I revamp it a little?”

So I’m instead putting the focus on people coming out as straight. Can anyone contribute anything on that topic?
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Old Jul 14, '17, 8:26 am
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I have a more specific question too: a few years ago there was a post about a coming-out-as-straight episode of Mad About You. But I've pretty much never watched the show ... does anyone know that episode?
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Old Jul 14, '17, 8:28 am
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P.S. I'm not sure if this needs saying or not, but my actions here are not meant to make light of the suffering that gay people sometimes suffer w.r.t. coming out of the closet.
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Old Jul 14, '17, 10:11 am
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My take on this: in most places straight people are so much the majority that "coming out as straight" either is basically meaningless or can't avoid sounding like an attack on any gay people in the vicinity.
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Old Jul 14, '17, 10:31 am
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I've seen people here say stats claim that about 98 percent of society is basically heterosexual (tho many stats I've seen say about 7-8 percent or so are homosexual?).

With a majority like that, most don't feel a need to "come out."

But, people usually "come out" as hetero anyway in their pre-teen years...depending on which poster they put up on their bedroom wall...David Cassidy or Farrah Fawcett!
(totally dating myself here...).


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I have a more specific question too: a few years ago there was a post about a coming-out-as-straight episode of Mad About You. But I've pretty much never watched the show ... does anyone know that episode?
I don't remember that one.
I remember a realllly funny one about Paul's sister coming out as gay....


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Old Jul 14, '17, 11:00 am
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But, people usually "come out" as hetero anyway in their pre-teen years...depending on which poster they put up on their bedroom wall...David Cassidy or Farrah Fawcett!
Heh. You just reminded me of an Oliver Bean episode (one of the few that I saw, believe me). Oliver's friend gets caught looking at a Playboy-ish magazine, and then sheepishly admits to his father that he liked it, to which his father exclaims "Oh thank God!"

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Yeah, I had to look up David Cassidy. (Though if you'd said Keith Partridge I would've understood.)
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The only reason I could think of someone needed to "come out as straight", would be if they had previously told everyone they were gay. It think that's probably a pretty rare situation.
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Old Jul 14, '17, 11:09 am
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My take on this: in most places straight people are so much the majority that "coming out as straight" either is basically meaningless or can't avoid sounding like an attack on any gay people in the vicinity.
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I've seen people here say stats claim that about 98 percent of society is basically heterosexual (tho many stats I've seen say about 7-8 percent or so are homosexual?).

With a majority like that, most don't feel a need to "come out."
Yeah, I think this thread would've had greater traction if I'd gone with the "straight pride" theme, but I think that topic is a bit inflammatory for some. (Though it doesn't necessarily have to be: Stephen Fry was once told that, if there were a Straight Pride Parade, then he wouldn't be invited because he's gay. Instead of responding that there shouldn't be such a thing, Fry merely said "I should be invited.")
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Old Jul 15, '17, 7:33 am
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Yeah, I think this thread would've had greater traction if I'd gone with the "straight pride" theme, but I think that topic is a bit inflammatory for some. (Though it doesn't necessarily have to be: Stephen Fry was once told that, if there were a Straight Pride Parade, then he wouldn't be invited because he's gay. Instead of responding that there shouldn't be such a thing, Fry merely said "I should be invited.")
P.S. This is along the lines of the "straight pride" idea, but done in a way that I don't think would offend anyone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS5WZoQGP4I
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The only reason I could think of someone needed to "come out as straight", would be if they had previously told everyone they were gay. It think that's probably a pretty rare situation.
Since starting this thread, it has occurred to me that “coming out as straight” may be a more common theme in sitcoms than I realized.

For example, I remember an episode of Cheers where the above happened to Norm. He mimicked mannerisms associated with gay people in order to get a yuppie couple to hire him as their interior designer. Then later he has to admit the truth to them ... in fact he even says "It's time for me to come out of the closet. I'm straight."
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Most if not all people come out as straight every day of their lives. It is revealed by their words,photos on their desks, phone calls, the way they talk to/about their loved ones without hiding it etc, etc etc.
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A week or two ago I was going to start a thread on the idea of “Straight Pride”, but I changed my mind after browsing the topic on the internet, because it appears to have become a very us-vs-them topic.

Then today I thought “Well rather than give up on the idea, what if I revamp it a little?”

So I’m instead putting the focus on people coming out as straight. Can anyone contribute anything on that topic?
I must admit, I don't understand the point. Gay people "come out" because shame and fear of rejection so often causes them to hide their sexual orientation in the first place, and because it is generally assumed that a person is heterosexual unless they reveal otherwise.

Otar is absolutely correct. As straight people, we reveal our sexual orientation every day of our lives because we've never felt shame about being heterosexual or felt the need to hide our sexual orientation from others. There's no need to come out about something you've never concealed. Frankly, I don't see what purpose it serves other than to mock and aggrieve our gay brothers and sisters.
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Yeah, "coming out" as straight when that's already the default assumption for the vast majority of people would feel like a pointless needling of gay people. Not into the idea.
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Old Jul 17, '17, 7:54 am
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The only reason I could think of someone needed to "come out as straight", would be if they had previously told everyone they were gay. It think that's probably a pretty rare situation.
Not rare at all. I can think of 6 people off the top of my head I have known that were once homosexual but eventually changed and admitted they were straight. 5 of them are now married and have children, All 6 of them said it was a phase they went thru as well.
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