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Old Jul 17, '17, 6:22 am
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Can the same be said about the Donald? He keeps denying that Russia meddled in the campaign on his behalf, when there is clear evidence that they did.
What's the evidence, then?

And why in the world won't the DNC allow the FBI to examine the computer supposedly hacked by Russia? If not for that story, there wouldn't be a "Russia collusion" story. And yet, nobody outside the DNC and its hired spy agency have examined the "evidence" that the media finds so persuasive.
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Old Jul 17, '17, 6:43 am
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Yes, but the story was wrong for months!
You really need to use your friend google.

NYT updated its story to include the WH claim.

But what is the reality of the story?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...king/92514592/
Clinton in the Las Vegas debate said:
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“We have 17, 17 intelligence agencies, civilian and military who have all concluded that these espionage attacks, these cyber attacks, come from the highest levels of the Kremlin. And they are designed to influence our election. I find that deeply disturbing.” .
Trump responded: that we have
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“no idea whether it is Russia, China or anybody else."
USA today's assessment athte time:
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But Clinton is correct. On Oct. 7, the Department of Homeland Security and Office of the Director of National Intelligence issued a joint statement on behalf of the U.S. Intelligence Community. The USIC is made up of 16 agencies, in addition to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
Here is the statement:
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/10/07/...ector-national

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The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations.
I think it fair to say that HRC wold have been more accurate to say, 17 agencies that after an investigation lead by the four major agencies, the DHS and ODNI released at statement on behalf of the USIC in which the conclusion is rendered that the Russian government is directed the cyber attacks.

Trump's comment however has nothing other than deflection from russia made on the basis of nothing. This is a gnat and camel absurdity.

He repeated his doubts at the G20 summit, and added to it his uncertainty as to whether or not we even have 17 intelligence agencies.

Here is an assessment from Politifact.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-either-way-r/

The issue here is the assessment of the IC on Russia's involvement. The deflection about the share of work of each agency within the IC in developed the conclusion, or drafting the statement is especially gross. Trump should have gone in to his meeting with Putin and said: this is conclusion of the USA, and here are some of the actions that we are prepared to undertake if you don't cease and desist. Instead he expresses his doubt in our people - in an international venue - and meekly asks Putin if he did it. Twice.

And the Trump-blind crow about something that they like to call an error in the MSM. Trump above the nation.
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Old Jul 17, '17, 6:45 am
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What did Obama ever do?
Google is your friend.
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Old Jul 17, '17, 7:08 am
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Google is your friend.
So you admit he did nothing about Russia?
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Old Jul 17, '17, 7:09 am
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What's the evidence, then?

And why in the world won't the DNC allow the FBI to examine the computer supposedly hacked by Russia? If not for that story, there wouldn't be a "Russia collusion" story. And yet, nobody outside the DNC and its hired spy agency have examined the "evidence" that the media finds so persuasive.


Yup!
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Old Jul 17, '17, 7:10 am
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You really need to use your friend google.

NYT updated its story to include the WH claim.

But what is the reality of the story?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...king/92514592/
Clinton in the Las Vegas debate said:

Trump responded: that we have

USA today's assessment athte time:


Here is the statement:
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/10/07/...ector-national

It begins:


I think it fair to say that HRC wold have been more accurate to say, 17 agencies that after an investigation lead by the four major agencies, the DHS and ODNI released at statement on behalf of the USIC in which the conclusion is rendered that the Russian government is directed the cyber attacks.

Trump's comment however has nothing other than deflection from russia made on the basis of nothing. This is a gnat and camel absurdity.

He repeated his doubts at the G20 summit, and added to it his uncertainty as to whether or not we even have 17 intelligence agencies.

Here is an assessment from Politifact.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-either-way-r/

The issue here is the assessment of the IC on Russia's involvement. The deflection about the share of work of each agency within the IC in developed the conclusion, or drafting the statement is especially gross. Trump should have gone in to his meeting with Putin and said: this is conclusion of the USA, and here are some of the actions that we are prepared to undertake if you don't cease and desist. Instead he expresses his doubt in our people - in an international venue - and meekly asks Putin if he did it. Twice.

And the Trump-blind crow about something that they like to call an error in the MSM. Trump above the nation.


Apparently it's not 17, either.


Might be there, but I didn't see Brennan's name, neither.
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Old Jul 17, '17, 7:19 am
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So you admit he did nothing about Russia?
That is a bizarre inference.
Since you are of requesting that others make use of the search tool, it seemed highly appropriate suggest that you do a little of your own homework as well.
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Old Jul 17, '17, 7:21 am
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Apparently it's not 17, either.
Air Force Intelligence, Army Intelligence, Central Intelligence Agency, Coast Guard Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency, Energy Department, Homeland Security Department, State Department, Treasury Department, Drug Enforcement Administration, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Marine Corps Intelligence, National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Agency, Navy Intelligence and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
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Old Jul 17, '17, 7:21 am
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What's the evidence, then?

And why in the world won't the DNC allow the FBI to examine the computer supposedly hacked by Russia? If not for that story, there wouldn't be a "Russia collusion" story. And yet, nobody outside the DNC and its hired spy agency have examined the "evidence" that the media finds so persuasive.
Clinton had over 20 years of dirt on her. Why is it assumed it was only on a computer?

Trump showed he was willing to use anything, even her husband, against her.
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Old Jul 17, '17, 7:23 am
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What's the evidence, then?
WIth Mueller III
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Old Jul 17, '17, 7:23 am
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That is a bizarre inference.
Since you are of requesting that others make use of the search tool, it seemed highly appropriate suggest that you do a little of your own homework as well.
So Obama did nothing about the Russia threat.
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Old Jul 17, '17, 7:25 am
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Air Force Intelligence, Army Intelligence, Central Intelligence Agency, Coast Guard Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency, Energy Department, Homeland Security Department, State Department, Treasury Department, Drug Enforcement Administration, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Marine Corps Intelligence, National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Agency, Navy Intelligence and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
And which are the 3 or 4 connected to the story because 17 was incorrect?
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Old Jul 17, '17, 7:28 am
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And which are the 3 or 4 connected to the story because 17 was incorrect?
Incorrect? How so?
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Old Jul 17, '17, 7:29 am
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So Obama did nothing about the Russia threat.
He didn't do enough. Everyone acknowledges that. But that doesn't excuse Jr.
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Old Jul 17, '17, 7:30 am
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He didn't do enough. Everyone acknowledges that. But that doesn't excuse Jr.
On the other hand, if it is all a "hoax" as Trump says, then he did way too much.
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