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I would post a poll, but it allows only ten choices.

I got Good News Bible in Today's English Version from Sunday School. It's more of a paraphrase than I translation. It's notable for including both the Hebrew and Greek versions of Esther, separately, as well as the various additions to the Greek texts of other books. It also includes the books that are in the Orthodox canon. I don't read it much, though, because it's physical, and that would involve me having to walk over and pick it up.

When I do feel like reading the Bible, it's the New American Standard Bible, because of all of the footnotes.

However, one that I've been looking into recently is The Unvarnished New Testament. The translator, Andy Gaus, disregards tradition and translates the original Greek directly into modern English. It's quite fascinating.
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The translator, Andy Gaus, disregards tradition and translates the original Greek directly into modern English. It's quite fascinating.
Fascinating since much of the "original Greek" is untranslatable directly into English, and other portions can have several valid translations depending upon the translator's preference. In other words, he's full of baloney.
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I have most of the major modern English translations in either print or electronic format.

I haven't heard of the Unvarnished NT before, though. I am very hesitant regarding any Bible translation that is the work of one person. It's way too easy for bias to creep in when it's just one guy rather than a team. Maybe the guy is brilliant and a phenomenal Greek scholar. But it's still just one guy.

And, as Deacon Jeff said, the Greek doesn't translate directly into English (anymore than any language translates directly into another language). Whenever you are translating, there are going to be judgment calls on whether the author meant one definition of the word or another. A team at least ostensibly has to come to some sort of consensus, which helps to minimize any one person's point of view from dominating.
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Whenever you are translating, there are going to be judgment calls on whether the author meant one definition of the word or another. A team at least ostensibly has to come to some sort of consensus, which helps to minimize any one person's point of view from dominating.
The translator acknowledges a person that "combed through this translation meticulously, fine-tuning its accuracy while he polished its good judgment". He acknowledges the
give-and-take in translating and decided to translate it in a way that it would mean the same to us as it meant to a Greek-speaker back then. He decided sentences were more important than words, and paragraphs were more important than sentences. Both his Acknowledgements and the Introduction by his checker provide more insight into this. They can be read for free in the preview of the Kindle Edition on Amazon - as well as about the first ten chapters of The Good Word According to Matthew.

Oh, I also have (or at least had; not sure if I still have it) one of those small, green-covered books that people sometimes hand out, which contains the New Testament, Psalms, and Proverbs. Not sure which translation.
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The translator acknowledges a person that "combed through this translation meticulously, fine-tuning its accuracy while he polished its good judgment". He acknowledges the
give-and-take in translating and decided to translate it in a way that it would mean the same to us as it meant to a Greek-speaker back then. He decided sentences were more important than words, and paragraphs were more important than sentences. Both his Acknowledgements and the Introduction by his checker provide more insight into this. They can be read for free in the preview of the Kindle Edition on Amazon - as well as about the first ten chapters of The Good Word According to Matthew.

Oh, I also have (or at least had; not sure if I still have it) one of those small, green-covered books that people sometimes hand out, which contains the New Testament, Psalms, and Proverbs. Not sure which translation.
Well, sure, even a book with one author has help from others. But I think that type of help is different from what happens with other translations.

You say he "decided to translate it in a way that it would mean the same to us as it meant to a Greek-speaker back then." This is the type of presumption that makes me wary of such translations.

This presumes that the translator knows what every word, sentence and paragraph of the entire New Testament meant to the original, 1st century audience (with different authors writing in different styles to different audiences). That's a pretty big presumption. No matter how educated he is, he's not going to know these things in a way that is 100% without question.

I'm not trying to be unduly harsh to this particular translation. I'm just pointing out that these things would make me wary of ascribing too much weight to it.
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I have the following bibles:

catholic youth bible st marys press

https://www.amazon.com/Catholic-Yout...ic+youth+bible

rsv ignatius press bible

https://www.amazon.com/Catholic-Bibl...oding=UTF8&me=


Douay-Rheims Bible bishop challoner
NAB st joseph edition

Have some others that I don't really use anymore. I want to add more like a good version of the Septuagint and I heard the rsv Ignatius study bible is good with scott hahn
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I have an ESV thinline, an ESV study Bible, a NRSV with apocrypha, a NKJV and a KJV on my phone.
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I have:
1) and 2) NAB - a fireside edition, and my confirmation gift (parish edition)
3) NIV - from my Evangelical days
4) NASB - A gift for my Evangelical baptism
5) recovery edition NT - Giveaway on campus. even the Evangelicals hate it.
6) Scotus Bible - epub (chinese)
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Unofficial collector/accumulator, regular reader.
Douay-Rheims
Knox Translation
Douay-Confraternity
Jerusalem Bible
New Jerusalem Bible
Catholic Living Bible
New American Bible
NAB/RE
RSV-2CE
La Biblia Latinoamerica
RSV Oxford Annotated w/Deuterocanon
Revised English Bible w/Deuterocanon
Revised English Bible Oxford Study w/Deuterocanon
New Revised Standard Version w/Deuterocanon
NASB
NIV
King James Versions: 1845, 1880s, 1936 (Bible as Literature Edition), various others
New King James Version, Scofield Edition

New Testament

Confraternity 1941
RSV-2CE
Revised English Bible New Testament w/Deuterocanon
KJV
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New American. Used it for high school Bible study, college theology, and personal reading.
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Douay-Rheims (2 copies)
Confraternity Bible (full edition and stand-alone NT)
Knox Bible (S&W student edition and Baronius Press edition)
Jerusalem Bible compact reader's edition
RSV-CE via EWTN app
New Jerusalem Bible via app
New American Bible 1970 ed (via wife)
RSV 2nd Ed (NT/Psalms, original version, ICSB NT, Lighthouse app, and Didache bible)
NABRE (Little Rock Study Bible and a gift edition my daughter has)

The last time the JWs came to the house, it was funny. My wife answered the door and they asked if we had a Bible in the house. She said we have about a dozen different Catholic ones. They promptly left - I don't think we were the house they were looking for.

Of course, I'm currently verboten from bringing any more in - she thinks we have enough now.
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Of course, I'm currently verboten from bringing any more in - she thinks we have enough now.
Seems harsh!

Let's see, I have in chronological order, more or less,

1632-35 Rouen Cousturier 4to illustrated 3 volume of the D/R
1750-52 12mo 5 volume Challoner D/R
1797 12mo Moir NT D/R
1810-12 Sower (Baltimore) pocket Bible KJV
1824 Cummiskey (Philadelphia) 8vo D/R
1825 Cummiskey Illustrated Grand Folio D/R
1829 Devereux (Utica NY) 12mo NT D/R
1832 Fielding Lucas Jr. (Baltimore) 4to illustrated D/R
1833 Doyle (NY,NY) 8vo D/R
1837 Fielding Lucas Jr. 12mo D/R (Provincial Council Bible)
1840 McIntyre Simms (Belfast Ireland) pocket Bible D/R
1852-55 Dunigan (NY,NY) 4to illustrated unabridged Haydock D/R
1870 Shea (NY,NY) 4to heavily illustrated D/R
1871 Sadlier (NY,NY) 32mo pocket Bible D/R
1878 Virtue (London) 2 volume 4to illustrated Haydock-Oakeley D/R
1878 Virtue (London) 14 parts in wraps (as issued) Haydock-Oakeley D/R
1910 Virtue (London) 4to illlustrated Haydock-Oakeley D/R
1941 St. Anthony (NJ) 8vo Confraternity NT
1944 Sheed & Ward (NY, NY) 8vo Knox NT
1946-1948 Burns & Oates (London) 8vo Knox Bible
1950 Kennedy (NY,NY) 8vo Douay/Confraternity Bible
1956 CTS (London) pocket bible D/R
1966 Doubleday (Garden City,NY) 8vo, Jerusalem Bible
1966 CTS (London) 8vo paperback, RSV-CE
1970 Nelson (NY,NY) 4to family Bible NAB
1977 Tyndale (IL) 8vo paperback The Way-CE
1980 (KY) 4to 3 volume reprint of 1582 NT & 1635 OT
2004 Oxford Press (NY) compact hardback Bible RSV-CE
2007 CTS (London) pocket Bible NCB-Grail Psalms
2008 Four Courts Press (Dublin) 4to Navarre Study NT
2010 Ignatius Press (San Francisco) 4to RSV-2CE Study NT
2011 Oxford Press (NY) Royal 8vo Personal Study Bible NABRE
2014 Loreto Press (NH) 4to unabridged Haydock Bible reprint
2015 Baronius Press (London) compact illustrated D/R (reprint of 1899 Murphy Bible)

Of course this doesn't include Bible commentary sets!

Only 1 KJV, all the rest Catholic.

So far the Mrs. (who has her own Bible which is not counted above) has not seen a problem!
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  • KJV
  • NRSV CE
  • Didache Bible - NABRE
  • Navarre Bible (RSV; all volumes)
  • 1953 Confraternity Bible (Confraternity - Douay OT and Confraternity NT)
  • Quest Bible (NIV) (this was given to my now Catholic wife when she was Baptist)
  • Jewish Annotated New Testament (NRSV, NT only)

I'd like to get a no-commentary Ignatius Bible (RSV-2CE) for simplicity and the complete Ignatius Catholic Study Bible once released, along with Oxford's Orthodox Study Bible when able. Haydock's Bible is something I'd like as well. I think I'd also like an ESV at some point, though I doubt that will get a Catholic Edition anytime soon.

I also have Aquinas' Catena Aurea (Gospel commentary), and a few other NT single-book commentaries.

Now I just need to finish reading them all!
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Ok, you win!

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Seems harsh!

Let's see, I have in chronological order, more or less,

1632-35 Rouen Cousturier 4to illustrated 3 volume of the D/R
1750-52 12mo 5 volume Challoner D/R
1797 12mo Moir NT D/R
1810-12 Sower (Baltimore) pocket Bible KJV
1824 Cummiskey (Philadelphia) 8vo D/R
1825 Cummiskey Illustrated Grand Folio D/R
1829 Devereux (Utica NY) 12mo NT D/R
1832 Fielding Lucas Jr. (Baltimore) 4to illustrated D/R
1833 Doyle (NY,NY) 8vo D/R
1837 Fielding Lucas Jr. 12mo D/R (Provincial Council Bible)
1840 McIntyre Simms (Belfast Ireland) pocket Bible D/R
1852-55 Dunigan (NY,NY) 4to illustrated unabridged Haydock D/R
1870 Shea (NY,NY) 4to heavily illustrated D/R
1871 Sadlier (NY,NY) 32mo pocket Bible D/R
1878 Virtue (London) 2 volume 4to illustrated Haydock-Oakeley D/R
1878 Virtue (London) 14 parts in wraps (as issued) Haydock-Oakeley D/R
1910 Virtue (London) 4to illlustrated Haydock-Oakeley D/R
1941 St. Anthony (NJ) 8vo Confraternity NT
1944 Sheed & Ward (NY, NY) 8vo Knox NT
1946-1948 Burns & Oates (London) 8vo Knox Bible
1950 Kennedy (NY,NY) 8vo Douay/Confraternity Bible
1956 CTS (London) pocket bible D/R
1966 Doubleday (Garden City,NY) 8vo, Jerusalem Bible
1966 CTS (London) 8vo paperback, RSV-CE
1970 Nelson (NY,NY) 4to family Bible NAB
1977 Tyndale (IL) 8vo paperback The Way-CE
1980 (KY) 4to 3 volume reprint of 1582 NT & 1635 OT
2004 Oxford Press (NY) compact hardback Bible RSV-CE
2007 CTS (London) pocket Bible NCB-Grail Psalms
2008 Four Courts Press (Dublin) 4to Navarre Study NT
2010 Ignatius Press (San Francisco) 4to RSV-2CE Study NT
2011 Oxford Press (NY) Royal 8vo Personal Study Bible NABRE
2014 Loreto Press (NH) 4to unabridged Haydock Bible reprint
2015 Baronius Press (London) compact illustrated D/R (reprint of 1899 Murphy Bible)

Of course this doesn't include Bible commentary sets!

Only 1 KJV, all the rest Catholic.

So far the Mrs. (who has her own Bible which is not counted above) has not seen a problem!
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I would post a poll, but it allows only ten choices.

I got Good News Bible in Today's English Version from Sunday School. It's more of a paraphrase than I translation. It's notable for including both the Hebrew and Greek versions of Esther, separately, as well as the various additions to the Greek texts of other books. It also includes the books that are in the Orthodox canon. I don't read it much, though, because it's physical, and that would involve me having to walk over and pick it up.

When I do feel like reading the Bible, it's the New American Standard Bible, because of all of the footnotes.

However, one that I've been looking into recently is The Unvarnished New Testament. The translator, Andy Gaus, disregards tradition and translates the original Greek directly into modern English. It's quite fascinating.
Oh, I love the Unvarnished New Testament, too! It's one that I sometimes recommend to people because of it's readability, and because I think Andy Gaus did a superb job on it. Actually, you're the only other person I've ever heard mention it. It's really not as well known as it deserves to be, in my opinion.

As far as complete Bibles go, I have two Douay-Rheims, one which belonged to my mother as a girl, and I have one Ronald Knox translation. Really though, aside from Psalms, I don't read the Old Testament too often. I've only read it once all the way through beginning to end, and then I've randomly read individual books within it in a very haphazard and order-free way from an early age. Ninety-five plus percent of the time I read the New Testament, and so I have a number of different editions of that. I have four different Ronald Know New Testaments: one bound in leather from the forties, one bound in flexible cloth from the forties, and two different hardcovers from the forties and early fifties, both of which are totally beautiful. The British seem to do a particularly nice job when it comes to publishing Bibles, but maybe I've just been lucky finding what I have.
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