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Old Jul 17, '17, 11:31 am
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I must admit, I don't understand the point. Gay people "come out" because shame and fear of rejection so often causes them to hide their sexual orientation in the first place, and because it is generally assumed that a person is heterosexual unless they reveal otherwise.

Otar is absolutely correct. As straight people, we reveal our sexual orientation every day of our lives because we've never felt shame about being heterosexual or felt the need to hide our sexual orientation from others. There's no need to come out about something you've never concealed. Frankly, I don't see what purpose it serves other than to mock and aggrieve our gay brothers and sisters.
Hi SavannahGal. I want to pick up on that last part, because I see this as a tricky question ... Don't get me wrong, I certainly agree that we shouldn't mock our gay brothers and sisters; I just mean that what's mocking and what isn't, isn't always black and white.

For example, the humor in the Cheers episode I mentioned (Season 7, Episode 6 -- I rewatched it on Netflix the other day ) admittedly could be said to make fun of gay people; but I don't think it was done in a mean-spirited way.

P.S. I don't know this for certain, but I would guess that people who were offended when that episode was made were mostly Richard-Nixon-types.
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Old Jul 17, '17, 11:50 am
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SavannahGal, BoomBoomMancini, and Otar Mendes, this isn't specifically in response to your posts but I think it may help. Your comments remind me of when I researched online about "Straight Pride": it appears that phrase has become a symbol of mockery against "Gay Pride". Conservatives use it that way, liberals take it that way ... I won't attempt to say which side is more responsible. But I do want to make the point that I don't think that had to happen, but it did.

That being said, "coming out straight" hasn't gone that way yet, and I don't think it has to. Take a look at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkFewRm_YC4
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Old Jul 17, '17, 12:36 pm
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I had to actually convince people that I was in fact straight and not gay due to the fact that I am not married or sexually active.

People just assume that if you are not having sexual relations with someone of the opposite sex within marriage or outside marriage, you must be having sexual relations with someone of the same sex.

Abstinence from sexual relations just never crosses their mind as a viable alternative to the above two scenarios.
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Old Jul 17, '17, 2:35 pm
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That being said, "coming out straight" hasn't gone that way yet, and I don't think it has to. Take a look at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkFewRm_YC4
But I don't get the point. It's like "coming out" as right handed. Most people are right handed and most people are straight, so if you don't make any particular statement, people will probably just assume you are anyway. Unless you're correcting a misconception, I'm just not sure what need this is addressing.
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Old Jul 17, '17, 5:59 pm
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But I don't get the point. It's like "coming out" as right handed. Most people are right handed and most people are straight, so if you don't make any particular statement, people will probably just assume you are anyway. Unless you're correcting a misconception, I'm just not sure what need this is addressing.
TBH I'm just glad that this thread got a handful of posts.

I think this reply hit the nail on the head:

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But, people usually "come out" as hetero anyway in their pre-teen years
even if they don't use the terms "come out", "closet" etc.

Anyhow, I don't know if this thread has run its course or not, but I'm not trying to extend it at this point. (Actually I'm taking a little vacation from CAF right now, excepting that I still check on this thread out of a sense of responsibility.)
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WWE did a dumb angle in the 90s where they had a couple wrestlers act in kinda offensively stereotypically gay ways and then announced a big coming out event, where they came out as straight. So you'd be in...illustrious company, at least
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Old Jul 18, '17, 8:30 am
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WWE did a dumb angle in the 90s where they had a couple wrestlers act in kinda offensively stereotypically gay ways and then announced a big coming out event, where they came out as straight. So you'd be in...illustrious company, at least
Yeah, "coming out as straight" can be pretty contrived. Straight people don't have much reason to plan "a coming out" in that sense, since straightness just "comes out naturally" through expressing interest in a person of the opposite sex, asking them out, etc -- or like D.G. said, putting up a Farrah Fawcet poster.

I think I can see why "coming out as straight" (and similar phrases) have a low frequency/occurrence, even relative to the phrase "straight pride" -- which is slightly more common but still not terribly common of course. (I have to wonder if the latter phrase could be reclaimed from those who have made it inflammatory? I'm guessing it will be eventually but not too soon.)
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Old Jul 18, '17, 8:36 am
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I had to actually convince people that I was in fact straight and not gay due to the fact that I am not married or sexually active.

People just assume that if you are not having sexual relations with someone of the opposite sex within marriage or outside marriage, you must be having sexual relations with someone of the same sex.

Abstinence from sexual relations just never crosses their mind as a viable alternative to the above two scenarios.
And then there's that of course.
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Old Jul 20, '17, 1:35 pm
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So Iím instead putting the focus on people coming out as straight. Can anyone contribute anything on that topic?
This doesn't fit exactly, but closely related (plus I'm the one who asked the question and I'm not going to complain ). I was just reading something on the topic of a (straight) Christian telling others that he or she is divorced...

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My friend is divorced, and that shapes many of the challenges he faces in day-to-day life in one way or another. When he looks to his friends for support and to his Church for pastoral guidance, itís important to be able to talk about his situation, for his friends and his pastors to meet him where he is at. Itís also important for the Church to hear from Christians, like him, who are divorced and striving to follow the orthodox teaching.

If, whenever anyone in his situation tried to contribute to the public discussion, Christian magazines and radio programs attacked him for ďidentifyingĒ as divorced, and a bunch of Christian bloggers piled on, the pastoral care of divorced people would be in an even sorrier state than it is now.
spiritualfriendship.org/2014/12/15/is-it-ok-for-christians-to-identify-as-divorced/
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I had to actually convince people that I was in fact straight and not gay due to the fact that I am not married or sexually active.

People just assume that if you are not having sexual relations with someone of the opposite sex within marriage or outside marriage, you must be having sexual relations with someone of the same sex.

Abstinence from sexual relations just never crosses their mind as a viable alternative to the above two scenarios.
Agree wholeheartedly.

Even had a psych demand to know that too
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Old Jul 21, '17, 5:39 pm
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Agree wholeheartedly.

Even had a psych demand to know that too
Can you elaborate on that?
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