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Old Jan 21, '17, 9:23 pm
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###[quote=Vera_Ljuba;14417189]Well, since the exorcist allegedly has the g to force that demon to leave, it is a reasonable assumption that he also has the power to summon. Especially since - according to you - the afflicted one has already did the "summoning".###

You are in error. The Exorcist has no power except by God. So the Exorcist is praying, asking , if it be God's Will, for the intercession of the Communion of Saints and to God, to kick evil butt.


###That is not what I am talking about. Every time someone utters a supplicatory or intercessory prayer (but NOT a meditative prayer) this person attempts to use God as a vending machine. And that is millions of prayers every day. The problem is that when I ask (not demand) God to manifest himself, the only objection from you (in general again) that I attempt to use God as a vending machine, and that is a major no-no. ###

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Many have gone before you, and many will go after you, who pray to God to manifest Himself.
The problem is...how many have enough faith and trust, to be still enough to await and recognise any answer?
I can ask for water in a desert all day long, but if I dont pick up a shovel and work to dig out the bore, it is my fault I died of thirst.
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Vera Ljuba
Many have gone before you, and many will go after you, who pray to God to manifest Himself.
The problem is...how many have enough faith and trust, to be still enough to await and recognise any answer?
I can ask for water in a desert all day long, but if I dont pick up a shovel and work to dig out the bore, it is my fault I died of thirst.
Yes, exactly.
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. . . how many have enough faith and trust, to be still enough to await and recognise any answer?
I can ask for water in a desert all day long, but if I dont pick up a shovel and work to dig out the bore, it is my fault I died of thirst.
Thanks.



Patience, faith and trust are virtues that accompany the love we are meant to become.

In the waiting, time passes, and we change. Hearing God's call in the yearning that grows as He approaches, that fire consumes our willfulness, purifying us for the meeting. It's for our own good actually, since when we meet, we will know ourselves as we truly are.

There is no point talking the talk but not walking the walk. It's in loving our neighbour that we do God's will and thereby enter into His kingdom.

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1 Kings 19:11 The Lord said, “Go out and stand on the mountain in the presence of the Lord, for the Lord is about to pass by.”
Then a great and powerful wind tore the mountains apart and shattered the rocks before the Lord, but the Lord was not in the wind. After the wind there was an earthquake, but the Lord was not in the earthquake. 12 After the earthquake came a fire, but the Lord was not in the fire. And after the fire came a gentle whisper. 13 When Elijah heard it, he pulled his cloak over his face and went out and stood at the mouth of the cave.
Then a voice said to him, “What are you doing here, Elijah?”
We may not be prepared to hear.
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