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Old Mar 20, '17, 5:20 pm
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PARIS (Reuters) - Centrist presidential candidate Emmanuel Macron was seen as the most convincing of the top five election contenders in a French televised debate, according to an opinion poll published minutes after the debate ended.

Twenty-nine percent of viewers thought Macron was the most convincing, ahead of firebrand leftist Jean-Luc Melenchon with 20 percent, while conservative Francois Fillon and far-right leader Marine Le Pen were tied in third place with 19 percent, the Elabe poll showed.

Socialist candidate Benoit Hamon came in last in the marathon debate that lasted almost three and a half hours, with 11 percent of viewers seeing him as the most convincing.

(Reporting by Michel Rose; Editing by Ingrid Melander)
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Old Mar 20, '17, 5:27 pm
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As far left as Melenchon is, he actually has two big positives. His opposition to NATO, and his opposition to the EU.
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As far left as Melenchon is, he actually has two big positives. His opposition to NATO, and his opposition to the EU.

Melenchon wants to abolish the Fifth Republic and replace it with a proletarian "social republic" in which assisted suicide - which he hails as the "pinnacle of free choice" - is enshrined as a basic right. I will give him some kudos for his belief in integration and the necessity of having a "welcoming society" for refugees, however. He has my full agreement on that.

Needless to say, I don't agree with him on practically anything else - not least his euroscepticism and opposition to NATO. You do realise that the only reason he dislikes the EU is that he objects to its single market in goods, services, capital and labour on the basis of his marxist economic philosophy, not its supranationalism per se. And as for NATO, he is a pacifist and has no clue about the need for collective security or deterrence in international relations.

Thankfully the vast majority of French people would never dream of backing him - although everyone recognises that he is an enormously gifted orator with great rhetorical flourish and comedic value.

But a President-in-waiting he is not. Praise be for that! After Le Pen (who did not do well in this debate, coming across as loud and aggressive) he is the candidate that I like the least.

The far-right and far-left are both rather abominable, albeit for very different reasons.
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M. Macron came across as very annoying and angry to me. He reminded me of Justin Trudeau in the last election in Canada. Very fake. Too polished.

Mme. Le Pen and the FN seem to be the only party that is willing to address the balkanization and islamification of French society. #ImWithHer
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My fear is that if the non-populists win and they become complacent and don't address some of issues they don't want to touch, things could deteriorate across Europe. It won't be a bunch of far-right leaders with a lack of experience in governing making controversial and provocative comments for sound bites but violence on the streets could increase.
Greece is an example. It's not just far-right demonstrators but far-left too.
There are already quite a number of attacks on refugee centres, migrants and people they think are migrants across Europe and this includes Greece, which adds to their existing debt clashes.
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