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Old Aug 12, '17, 4:14 pm
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A Virginia college student was sentenced this week to 100 days incarceration for submitting fraudulent voter registration forms listing the names of dead people and other faulty information for a political organization connected to the Democratic Party.

Andrew J. Spieles, 21, was sentenced in federal court Tuesday for knowingly transferring false Virginia voter registration forms during the 2016 election, according to the Justice Department.

Spieles, a student at James Madison University, worked as a staffer for Harrisonburg Votes -- a group affiliated with the Democratic Party -- and was paid to register voters in the area during the weeks leading up to the 2016 election. Spieles’ job was to register as many voters as possible; he reported to Democratic campaign headquarters in Harrisonburg, Va., according to the DOJ.
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Old Aug 12, '17, 5:07 pm
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The "slammer"? Is this a story from 1935?

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Old Aug 12, '17, 5:10 pm
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If the other side had one, I wonder if their Justice Department would even have followed up on any leads to build this case? Or, I wonder how many other potential cases might have been identified, but were not, in recent years? Very little coverage in mainstream media.
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Old Aug 12, '17, 5:12 pm
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Would this be that non-existent voter fraud?
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The "slammer"? Is this a story from 1935?

He was taken to the slammer in a paddy wagon
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Old Aug 12, '17, 5:15 pm
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He could have been sent to the hoosegow, the stoney lonesome, the con college, the glasshouse, the bucket, club fed, the greybar hotel, the big house, the calaboose, the castle, the cooler, the country club, the crowbar hotel, the digger, the farm, the guardhouse, the hole, the joint, the jug, the pen, the pokey, the rock, the sneezer, the stockade, or, or course, the clink. So, I guess the 1935 slammer is not so bad. Maybe he could watch the "cagers" play basketball, or his mother could drive her Studebaker out for a visit, or if he gets in trouble on the inside, he may have to engage in fisticuffs. Gee, wouldn't that be swell?
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Old Aug 12, '17, 5:25 pm
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The "slammer"? Is this a story from 1935?
I'm nostalgic for some pre-World War II lingo, hope this is just the beginning XD
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Old Aug 12, '17, 5:26 pm
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He gets to live in a gated community?
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Instead of reading examples, he IS one!
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I'm nostalgic for some pre-World War II lingo, hope this is just the beginning XD
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Old Aug 12, '17, 5:51 pm
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It's not just Democrats, Republicans play by the same rules:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...By-Republicans

In January 2016, New Hampshire resident Derek Castonguay pleaded guilty to voter fraud. He was so excited about voting, he was registered to vote as a Republican in both Windham and Salem, N.H.

In February 2016, Wisconsin resident Robert Monroe was sentenced to jail on 13 counts of voter fraud. He had cast illegal votes in 2011 and 2012, including voting multiple times in the recall election, for Republican Gov. Scott Walker, from multiple locations and in the names of his son and his son's girlfriend. Monroe tried to claim he was in a "fugue state" when he voted so often, but the judge wasn't buying it.

In 2014, Leslie Rutledge, the Republican candidate for Arkansas attorney general, was registered to vote in Washington, D.C., Arkansas, and Virginia. She registered to vote in Washington in 2008, then voted absentee from Arkansas in the same election. An Arkansas county clerk canceled her Arkansas registration in 2014 when he learned she was registered in multiple states, meaning she couldn't run for office, because in Arkansas you must be registered to vote to run for office. Rutledge objected and blamed “big bureaucrat, big government” politics. Rutledge ultimately won her argument -- and the attorney general's race. Oh, and she's a YUUUGE Trump supporter.

In Illinois, a 2014 candidate for the General Assembly, Republican Nancy Myalls, was found to have cast votes in both Illinois and Wisconsin, where she owned a vacation home, in 2008 and 2012. She was another Republican, like Robert Monroe, who wanted to make sure she could vote for Scott Walker in the recall election. Although Myalls was never prosecuted for voter fraud, at least she lost the election for a state legislative seat.

In February 2012, the Republican secretary of state in Indiana, Charlie White, was found guilty on multiple counts: two counts of perjury and one each of false registration, voting in another precinct, submitting a false ballot, and theft. At the time of the fraud, he had used his ex-wife’s home as his voting address because he “didn’t want to give up a $1,000-a-month” town council salary. Remember that the secretary of state is in charge of elections.

In January 2013, Roxanne Rubin, a Nevada Republican, accepted a plea deal for voting multiple times in the 2012 election. Rubin claimed she didn’t want to commit fraud, she just decided to “test” the integrity of the voting system by voting multiple times.

In Arizona in 2012, a Republican candidate for county supervisor, John Enright, was forced to withdraw his candidacy when it came to light that he had been sending in absentee votes for his girlfriend—who had been dead for five years.

Also in Arizona in 2012, an unidentified Republican man thought it would be hilarious to register his dog as a Democrat, just to show how easy it was to commit voter fraud. He committed voter registration fraud, but not voter fraud -- the dog obviously wasn't going to show up to vote. And what dog would want to register as a Republican anyway?

There are four documented cases of voter fraud in the 2016 election out of 135 million votes cast, which turned up in an exhaustive online search by The Washington Post. Three of the four involved Republican voters and Trump supporters. The fourth involved an election worker in Florida counting absentee ballots who was arrested after she filled in bubbles for a Republican mayoral candidate.

Of course, Steve Bannon, President Popular Vote Loser's right-hand man in the White House, is registered to vote in two states—New York and Florida. One of the Trump offspring, Tiffany, is registered in both New York and Pennsylvania. Trump Treasury secretary nominee Steve Mnuchin is registered in both New York and California. And there are two more double dippers in Trump’s corner: son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner is registered in New York and New Jersey, and Baghdad Sean Spicer is registered in Rhode Island and Virginia. Presumably all five voted Republican.
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Old Aug 12, '17, 5:54 pm
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Lest anyone claim it's worse when a Democrat who's registering others does this:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/...ry?id=17370445

A GOP-backed consulting firm may have submitted "hundreds" of faked voter registration forms in Florida, according to the Florida Department of State.

The GOP cut ties with the third party voter registering company Strategic Allied Consultants on Thursday after the Palm Beach County elections supervisor flagged 106 of the firm's registration forms for having similar handwriting, incorrect addresses and incomplete information.

Since then, elections officials in nine Florida counties have unearthed hundreds of possibly fraudulent registration forms.

Chris Cate, a spokesman for the Florida Department of State, said the state does not yet know the exactly how many forms were allegedly faked. While it is not unusual to get reports of incomplete registration cards, Cate said it is rare for the state to have so many forms with false or wrong information.

"We are concerned about any cases of voter fraud," Cate said. "In this case, it has to do with most allegations regarding bad information on voter applications. We don't know the extent of how it could impact election, but we will let the Florida Department of Law Enforcement determine full extent of the problem."

Strategic Allied Consultants claims the issue stemmed from one employee, who was fired on Sept. 15, but county election officials claim the fraud was more widespread, stretching across counties that are more than 500 miles apart.

"I don't subscribe to the theory that this was the action of one single individual who was able to get into more than half a dozen counties from one end of Florida to the other," said Paul Lux, the Okaloosa County Election Supervisor.

Lux said that out of 2,200 forms that Strategic Allied workers submitted, he and his staff have found about three dozen that appear to be faked. Some have signatures that do not match the names; others are only partially completed and a handful of forms have addresses that do not exist, he said.

"The problem is when you pay someone to do something like this, it kind of lends itself to what do you do to get paid?" Lux said.

The Republican Party of Florida paid Strategic Allied Consultants $1.3 million to register voters starting in July. State party spokesman Brain Burgess said the Republican National Committee asked the state party to hire the consultants and paid for the firm. Before hiring the consulting group, Burgess said Florida Republicans relied solely on volunteers to register voters.

Burgess said the party first learned about the supposed fraud more than one week after the firm fired one of its Palm Beach area workers for allegedly faking the voter forms.

Two days later the Republican National Committee cut ties with the firm and asked state party officials in four other states to do the same. Strategic Allied Consultants was registering voters on behalf of the RNC in five battleground states: Florida, Virginia, North Carolina, Colorado and Nevada.

North Carolina election authorities have flagged five possibly fraudulent forms that the GOP-backed consultant firm submitted. The state's chief election official Gary Bartlett said he believes it was an isolated incident because all five came from the same county.

None of the forms Strategic submitted in Colorado or Virginia have been flagged and the Nevada Secretary of State's office would not confirm or deny whether it was investigating any allegedly fraudulent forms.

A GOP spokesman said the party's partnership with Strategic was the only paid voter registration effort it was doing and that it had planned to wrap up its registration efforts this week, so firing the firm did not cut short its registration drive.

In Santa Rosa County, Fla., elections officials found about 100 questionable forms, as did officials in Palm Beach County. Susan Bucher, the Palm Beach County election supervisor, said she suspected a different person was falsely filling out the forms in her county than the employee who faked the Okaloosa forms.

"The scenarios are a little bit different," Bucher said.

In Palm Beach, for example, some forms listed a commercial address, like a Land Rover dealership, instead of residential addresses.

But while Florida investigates these supposedly fraudulent registrations, election officials said they are not concerned that poorly filed forms will result in fraudulent ballots.

"I think the likelihood of that is very, very slim," Lux said. "At the end of the day we aren't talking about fraudulent people getting on the voter rolls, we are taking about a lot of busy work."
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That is pretty despicable. Adults who didn't want to go to jail for voter fraud, con a college student to be their disposable patsy.
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Having said this, there is no evidence that US presidential elections have been swung by voter fraud, or that the problem is wide-spread. Not when Bush won, not when Obama won, and not when Trump won.

On that note, I have no idea why Mr. Trump is so wound up about the popular vote. Everyone knows that voters who are quite aware they do not vote in a swing state will make their decision accordingly. They are free to cast a protest vote for a candidate they know cannot win, since their decision won't sway the election. Likewise, voters in swing states may be voting for a candidate they don't like much, since they don't want to "throw away" their vote by voting by someone they like the best who has an extremely low chance of winning. They instead vote for "the lesser of two evils," which is hardly some ringing endorsement.

If we had a ranked alternative voting system, then winning the popular vote would mean something.
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Would this be that non-existent voter fraud?

No one says it doesn't exist. Most say the problem is very small. But the right likes to pretend otherwise without any evidence to the contrary, so that's why stories like this get so much traction on Fox News and the like.
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