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Old Feb 1, '13, 3:18 am
Trela Trela is offline
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Hi. A few months ago, I posted of my struggles with pornography and masterbation. I'm happy to report that after much prayer and frequent confession, the tide is turning in my favor. In these past two weeks, I've masturbated about 3-4 times whereas it used to be everyday. I have watched no pornography...or so I think.

I have not gone onto any porn sites for two weeks. I have seen two human beings have sexual relations with each other. However, the other night, a strange video was making its rounds on Facebook. It was about a woman engaging in anal beastiuality(or however it's spelled.) I watched two separates videos, she was naked, and they were shorter than a minute. The woman aroused me, but I didn't act upon it. My question is, does watching those videos count as pornography? What about being aroused? I didn't watch intending to be aroused(gross) but I was BY THE WOMAN. Thank you for answering.
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Old Feb 1, '13, 4:58 am
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It is good that you are making progress. Your recovery will most likely not be a straight line to the top, although that's what you shoutd aim for.

It is a sin to watch pornography. It seems you are trying to gain a rationalization here. Keep going to confession and trust in the Lord's mercy. But don't rationalize, that's trouble. You made a choice to watch something you know is sinful.
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Old Feb 1, '13, 5:35 am
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It will be the thing itself that is pornographic, not the watching of it.

You conscience will tell you if it was pornographic. I think you know what the answer is.

By your description, you certainly put yourself in what is called a Near Occasion of Sin, seemingly deliberately.

You assented to watching the videos - in particular, you assented to watching the second one where you could not claim to have been unaware of its contents.

It's good that your fighting it. It's possible that your addiction lessens your culpability in this matter. It's definitely something you should bring up in Confession.
May the Lord bless you and keep you.
May he show his face to you and have mercy on you.
May he turn his countenance towards you
and give you peace.

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Old Feb 1, '13, 8:02 am
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Try to avoid situation that would potentially arouse you.

Talk to your priest. He's the better judge of your situation - we're lay people mostly here on the forums. We don't have Christ in the way the priest has Him, or his training, and thus, the priest is the one who can best read your situation and counsel you.
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Old Feb 1, '13, 8:33 am
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Here is what the Catechism of the Catholic Church says on mortal sin:
1855 Mortal sin destroys charity in the heart of man by a grave violation of God's law; it turns man away from God, who is his ultimate end and his beatitude, by preferring an inferior good to him.

Venial sin allows charity to subsist, even though it offends and wounds it.

1856 Mortal sin, by attacking the vital principle within us - that is, charity - necessitates a new initiative of God's mercy and a conversion of heart which is normally accomplished within the setting of the sacrament of reconciliation:

When the will sets itself upon something that is of its nature incompatible with the charity that orients man toward his ultimate end, then the sin is mortal by its very object . . . whether it contradicts the love of God, such as blasphemy or perjury, or the love of neighbor, such as homicide or adultery. . . . But when the sinner's will is set upon something that of its nature involves a disorder, but is not opposed to the love of God and neighbor, such as thoughtless chatter or immoderate laughter and the like, such sins are venial.130

1857 For a sin to be mortal, three conditions must together be met: "Mortal sin is sin whose object is grave matter and which is also committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent."131

1858 Grave matter is specified by the Ten Commandments, corresponding to the answer of Jesus to the rich young man: "Do not kill, Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, Honor your father and your mother."132 The gravity of sins is more or less great: murder is graver than theft. One must also take into account who is wronged: violence against parents is in itself graver than violence against a stranger.

1859 Mortal sin requires full knowledge and complete consent. It presupposes knowledge of the sinful character of the act, of its opposition to God's law. It also implies a consent sufficiently deliberate to be a personal choice. Feigned ignorance and hardness of heart133 do not diminish, but rather increase, the voluntary character of a sin.

1860 Unintentional ignorance can diminish or even remove the imputability of a grave offense. But no one is deemed to be ignorant of the principles of the moral law, which are written in the conscience of every man. The promptings of feelings and passions can also diminish the voluntary and free character of the offense, as can external pressures or pathological disorders. Sin committed through malice, by deliberate choice of evil, is the gravest.

1861 Mortal sin is a radical possibility of human freedom, as is love itself. It results in the loss of charity and the privation of sanctifying grace, that is, of the state of grace. If it is not redeemed by repentance and God's forgiveness, it causes exclusion from Christ's kingdom and the eternal death of hell, for our freedom has the power to make choices for ever, with no turning back. However, although we can judge that an act is in itself a grave offense, we must entrust judgment of persons to the justice and mercy of God.
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Old Feb 18, '13, 2:09 am
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Great job for the progress you have made so far!

I would agree with the other responses that what your describing is the viewing of pornography plain and simple, and that activity is considered a mortal sin if done with full knowledge and consent. If done without full knowledge or consent, it is still a sin and the evil effects it has on one's soul remain. Rationalizing doesn't count for limiting one's knowledge and consent. The person who is struggling with addiction (I know, as I have), often becomes extremely adept at rationalization.

It sounds as though you do not have porn filtering software on your computer. You really cannot be serious about giving up porn unless you install filtering software wherein you do not have access to the secret code. Not having such software is akin to the man who says he's giving up porn but still keeps a large stack of porn DVDs in his closet, or the alcoholic who says he's giving up drinking but keeps a case of beer in the fridge.
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