[quote="Markus2007, post:8, topic:311989"]
This if from Luke's Gospel:
14 When the hour had come, He sat down, and the apostles with Him.
15 Then He said to them, “With fervent desire I have desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer;
16 for I say to you, I will no longer eat of it until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of God.
17 Then He took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, “Take this and divide it among yourselves;
18 for I say to you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes.”
19 And He took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me.”
20 Likewise He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you.
21 But behold, the hand of My betrayer is with Me on the table.
22 And truly the Son of Man goes as it has been determined, but woe to that man by whom He is betrayed!”
So it seems as if he gave the bread to the 12 in verse 19, and began identifying his betrayer in verse 21. This clearly is afterwards, but shortly afterwards. Maybe he said "but behold" in that very moment were Judas was about to touch it? This is just speculation and I would hope somebody could shed more light on this, as it is such a central and important topic regarding our faith.
Perhaps we at times fail to see the forest for the trees. Whether or not Judas received the Body and Blood of Christ in the Eucharist is not the message and in itself does not teach us. God has always made His love and mercy available to his people if we choose to repent and accept Him, whether it be before or after the institution of the Eucharist which since its inception gave us a new starting point for all future generations to seek Him and acquire His forgiveness and love and a means to retain it. The Eucharist provides us the means to enter into the covenant with Christ in His Blood in the repentance of our sins which includes the changing of our ways and putting on “the new man”. If Judas received the Eucharist he did so no differently than many who receive it unworthily today yet many do. This is why it is said one takes on the responsibility for the Body and Blood of Christ if they accept it unworthily. Neither Judas’ free-will nor that of anyone else is ever taken away from them should they choose to sin and that includes receiving the Eucharist but it is a defiling of the Body and Blood of Christ to receive in a state of serious sin. Jesus is just as aware today who receives unworthily as He was in the beginning.
We must also remain aware to the fact the scripture verses we are reading express only in part what the apostles learned and taught but are not complete recordings of Christ’s teachings and the contents of the gospels were written, identified in their authenticity and validity, compiled and presented by the Catholic Church to teach the Catholic faith. If the origin of the Church came from the Bible one would have reason to assume the Church should follow the Bible only. However, the texts of the Gospels came from those early teachers of the Catholic Faith chosen by Christ Himself to pass on the Word and establish His Church which history shows they did. Their texts (the gospels) were partial writings from their preaching but their preaching was presented personally to all men, women and children of whom they taught, many who later succeeded them in their bishoprics. The Bible was introduced in the fourth century to aid in the Church’s teaches, not the other way around, and it should be realized that source of the Bible, the Church, would know best the fullness of those teachings.
I hope this helps my brother...