1 Corinthians 14:33-35


#1

1 Corinthians 14:33-35 reads as follows: “As in all the churches of the saints, the women should keep silence in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be subordinate, as even the law says. If there is anything they desire to know, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.”

I ran across this which seems to be claiming that Paul’s words were a church discipline and not a church doctrine: catholic.com/blog/jim-blackburn/was-st-paul-a-misogynist-and-a-bigot

My question is simple: do church disciplines show up in Scripture and if they do, how do we tell the difference between a verse that is doctrine and a verse that is disciplinary?


#2

Paul addresses seven specific issues when he writes to the Christians in Corinth. Disorder in worship - everyone speaking all at once - was one of the issues he corrects. In addition to women, Paul tells those who speak in speak in tongues and those who prophesy to keep quiet.

But if there is no one to interpret, let each of them keep silence in church and speak to himself and to God. (1 Corinthians 14:28)
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If a revelation is made to another sitting by, let the first be silent
*. (1 Corinthians 14:30)

the women should keep silence in the churches. (1 Corinthians 14:34)*

Disorder was the topic, not the role of women. Paul was asking for silence in Church, and 2000 years later we are still waiting for silence in Church. Nothing has changed. The discipline was silence, and it applied to everyone.

It helps to get into a good Bible study like those in the Great Adventure series by Jeff Cavins.

-Tim-


#3

We go to the catechism for the official Church teaching. A wonderful (and grossly underused) reference for all Christians. Yet, one must read scripture and discern the context carefully. “In Church” often means during the divine liturgy/mass. First, that is a substantial and almost completely different activity from modern church “services” - being the consecration of the bread and wine into the Body and Blood of the Lord. So, much in scripture is contextual. Some is universal, but letters written to specific congregations may have been intended only for that community.


#4

A lot of things changed with the New Testament. I’m pretty sure this is one of those things:

biblehub.com/galatians/3-28.htm


#5

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