The film tells a generation of older men that pursing sexual relationships with teenagers is beautiful and empowering, and perfectly acceptable.
Yeah – “age gap” relationships are ruinous for some people… easily overlooked for others (Muhammad Ali).
It’s Hollywood where they always seem eager to celebrate behavior the rest of us define as immoral.
SICK, sad and totally WRONG!
I am not one to say people can’t have a relationship. But the first and foremost relationship is with Christ, in His Church. That is where one’s heart ought to be. No matter what silly notions people have, and fads they chase after, their heart ought to be with Jesus,Mary,and Joseph.
I know from experience. I used to be not bad looking years ago. Even last year some girls commented I had nice hair. It made me happy. Now I am older, God has shown no grace or mercy to make me youthful again. And I have to just accept the fact that I am older now. For me, I have went through so much abuse and trauma as a child. And steeped in sin I also fell. So as my weary head has pulled out of the sexual sins of the past, I fell into. I am now suddenly awakening to the cruel reality of my past sins and mistakes. So I know how articles appeal to men of a certain age. Including myself. When you are weak and fallen, low self esteem, and desperate. You end up falling for fantasizing about non-sense like this.
My prayer is to be able to live in a Holy life, in the Eucharist. With Jesus, Mary, and Joseph. Not a bad crowd at that. Living in solace and Adoration would be great. Living a life of Penance is my dream and wish. And I pray for older guys, or any guy of any age, to be freed of this erotic culture. And dispel the lies they have fallen into.
That’s what I hope and pray. Please pray for those people don’t buy into this. Many who are lost souls.
Like the Guardian Angel of Portugal said, “Penance, penance, penance.” We need to live it.
I’m generally tolerant of whatever Hollywood cranks out concerning consenting adults, or teenagers of similar ages even, but I too was shocked by the fact that this movie seems to be well received. The younger guy in the film is technically underage in USA, which maybe a couple decades ago would not have been regarded as a big deal, but sure is considered a big deal in USA right now. I can’t help but feel that maybe the message is “hey, just go someplace like Italy and then you can do what you want and not worry about getting busted.”
This is funny timing. I just saw a conversation amongst some LGBT youths. They were talking about how the gay community tend to romanticize such age gaps. I don’t know how accurate that is beyond the realms of social media, though.
There seems to be a double standard in Hollywood. The actor, Timothee, I believe, worked with Woody Allen as well. There’s not much uproar over that too even though his female co-star was publicly dragged for it. I don’t know if it’s because he’s not as famous as her or there’s a double standard (if you’re progressive enough, we’ll keep quiet).
The movie doesn’t seem to be doing as well as I initially thought. The interest seems to be dying down? Anyway, I think that there’s not much criticism because it’s about a gay couple. I hate to be that person but it seems like they’re just happy to have a movie. I can imagine this film getting more criticism once it dies down and better films about LGBT couples are released.
I think it’s a cultural thing. Way back when, like, in Jesus’ time, older men often married younger women. It was seen as normal.
I think it’s weird, and although I don’t think this kind of relationship is intrinsically immoral, I don’t think the majority of today’s teenagers are as educated on relationships and things like that as they should be. So in today’s culture it would be unadvisable and imprudent.
Personally I think it definitely always is immoral because a teenager is still a child and doesn’t have the brain capacity to make fully informed decisions.
The way that an adult thinks vs how a child (teen) thinks is very different.
These sort of relationships are exploitative because the teen may be (unconsciously) looking for a parent figure and the adult is looking for their beauty and youth.
Even when talking just about relationships with large age gaps but where both are adults (25 +) I still don’t think it is a good idea because it is bad for society and for women’s worth-eg:imagine the state of society if all older men wanted relationships with young women…then what would happen to all the older women?
There’s already such a “man drought” to begin with.
A lot of cultural things happened in Jesus time-good and bad- but I think society is always evolving.
I imagine in the past a woman would have been a lot more guided by her parents when considering a husband so maybe there was less scope for older men to take advantage. It’s hard to draw comparisons in this area.
Of course, I think such things can happen. But I don’t find it intrinsically immoral, because those things don’t always happen. I definitely think it’s imprudent and unadvisable, as said before. For the reasons you listed.
This is true. A lot of the marrying of younger women to older men was largely the choice of the girl’s parents and the idea was to marry her to a man who was established economically and could provide for her and her children and basically take care of her.
As for gays romanticizing age-gap relationships, I think there’s a segment of gays, as well as a segment of heterosexuals, who do this, so it’s not just a gay thing. However, if gays are trying to portray themselves to society as just normal folks who get married and have kids etc., then movies where gay adults are having love affairs with minors probably do not operate in the community’s favor. By releasing such movies, they are just triggering all those parents out there whose biggest fear is that their kid is going to be exploited or harmed by a gay person.
They are both the same gender.
Agreed, there’s nothing left to say about that
I loved that film. The age gap did bother me though. Had Timothee Chalamet’s character been just a few years older I feel like people would be more on board with the couple’s consent.
I agree, if he had been 18 or 19 I would have considered it just another Hollywood “coming of age” movie.
But when even Dan Savage repeatedly has told folks to check IDs and when a teacher at my local high school got fired and hauled off to jail for getting caught in the car with a 17-year-old at night in a lovers lane in the park, it’s hard to see this movie as okay just because they went to Italy.
You obviously know what gay means. What a lot of nonsense.