My dad (a southern Baptist) asked me if I had read to my wife 1 Tim 2:12. I told him no I haven’t. Then he whips out his Bible and states what it says. He then closed it and that was the end of the discussion. Does anyone have an idea what purpose he might have had for me needing to read that to my wife? What is the context of 1Tim 2:12?
Footnotes for context, if that helps…
I’m not sure your dad would know that context, necessarily, so who knows what he meant. Perhaps if it’s important enough he’ll use his own words next time rather than “proof-texting.” Fortunately for you, it doesn’t matter. It’s your marriage. You+ wife + God. With God in it, you’ll know when you need to communicate something to her. All the best.
Can’t think what his purpose might have been since I don’t know him…unless he thinks your wife is “uppity” and has too much control over you. :shrug:
Here is the whole of ! Timothy Chapter 2…
A Call to Prayer
1 First of all, then, I urge that entreaties and prayers, petitions and thanksgivings, be made on behalf of all men, 2 for kings and all who are in authority , so that we may lead a tranquil and quiet life in all godliness and dignity . 3 This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave Himself as a ransom for all, the testimony given at the proper time. 7 For this I was appointed a preacher and an apostle (I am telling the truth, I am not lying) as a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth. 8 Therefore I want the men in every place to pray, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and dissension.
9 Likewise, I want women to adorn themselves with proper clothing, modestly and discreetly, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly garments, 10 but rather by means of good works, as is proper for women making a claim to godliness. 11 A woman must quietly receive instruction with entire submissiveness. 12 But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. 13 For it was Adam who was first created , and then Eve. 14 And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. 15 But women will be preserved through the bearing of children if they continue in faith and love and sanctity with self -restraint.
It is healthy in a Catholic marriage to read that to your wife every morning: “I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man, she must be quiet” (1 Timothy 2:12). It would also be advisable to wear a suit of armor when doing so.
I can imagine saying that to my wife, I can’t imagine her response. :rolleyes:
From the Haydock commentary
Ver. 12. St. Paul only means in public. See note on ver. 11. of the next chapter. It would appear from this regulation of the apostle, as well as from the writings of the earliest fathers, that the practice and condemnation of women interfering at all in spiritual affairs, in not new. Tertullian says: We do not permit a woman to teach, to baptize, or to arrogate to herself any part of the duty which belongs to man. (De Veland. Virg. cap. 9.) — The woman has tried once to teach, when she persuaded Adam to eat the forbidden fruit, and has wofully failed. Let her now be content to remain in silence, and subjection to man; (St. Chrysostom on this place) as appears also from the order of the creation. See ver. 13. Seduction began with Eve, a subject of profound humiliation for women; but this ought not to deprive them of confidence in God’s mercy, nor take from them the hope of salvation. (Bible de Vence)
Shaolen, perhaps you could forward this to you father so that he has the accurate interpretation of the verse.