=DebbieS;10596561]To paraphrase, this verse says God has not given us the spirit of fear but of power, love and a SOUND MIND. What does this mean with respect to mental illness and depression?
Of ALL of the Created THINGS [BILLIONS OF THEM] only One' only man has the necessary attributes to rationalize; to choose to love or to choose to hate. These very same attributes [Gifts from God with a purpose] allow man ALONE to emumlate God.
We alone have a mind; intellect and freewill [WHICH IS ALL THE VERSE IS IMPLYING] and like our God these too are Spiriual Things.
John 4:23-24 "But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true adorers shall adore the Father in spirit and in truth. For the Father also seeketh such to adore him. God is a spirit; and they that adore him, must adore him in spirit and in truth"
Isa.43 Verses 7and 21: “every one who is called by my name, whom I created for my glory, whom I formed and made." AND the people whom I formed for myself that they might declare my praise.”
Its been suggested to me that anyone suffering from depression or mentall illness is in a state of sin or making a choice to be depressed. Treatment for these things is giving in to the devil and just a crutch, a lack of trust in God. I just don't think this is right.
This position lacks ALL charity; and therefore cannot possibiliy be from God. AMEN!
All crosses are EITHER 'From God" [imposed by]' or at least PERMITTED by God for two very specific reasons.
His POSSIBLE Glorification
That persons POSSIBLE sactification
*BOTH REQUIRE *
1. ACCEPTING THE CROSS
- OFFERING IT UP TO GOD FOR EITHER ONES SELF OR SOMEONE ELSE
This is a signifiant form of sacrifice with the very high potemtial for Actual Grace
Any physical condition that CAN be improved upon OUGHT to seek to do so. Cures and assistance TOO ARE FROM God's mercy.:thumbsup:
This idea of "sin related suffering" is an OLD Jewish understanding of God's "justice" W/O factoring in God;s Love and Mercy. If this HAD ANY TRUTH Oboma and those Democrats who support them espeically the one still choosing to give themselves the tilte of "catholic":bigyikes::banghead: would be incompaciated.
I'm interested in what the good folks here think of this verse and what exactly a "sound mind" might mean.
'Sound mind" means the ability to think and to freely choose.
Ecclesiasticus 15:18 "Before man is life and death, good and evil, that which he shall choose shall be given him"