[quote="ianjmatt, post:1, topic:285071"]
I have a friend who ia moving towards Catholicism (as am I). They lost a child at 4 days old years ago and at the time went to a protestant Church that practiced adult baptism. When it was clear the child wouldn't survive they had the Anglican chaplain in the hospital come and pray with them and the child, but didn't have the baby baptised as it wasn't in their belief system.
Concern over the Church's teaching on the issue of unbaptised infants is probably te biggest thing holding them back from converting.
What is the position on such babies?
My wife and I lost a baby, too. I have never stopped thinking of that little one.
I believe very much in the Limbo concept, unlike others here. I believe that the Limbo concept is innately necessary in theology.
The reason why the grace of salvation is innately necessary is that without grace man is a "desperately wicked" "sin machine," untouchable by God. Jeremiah 17:9. Do you remember those horrible creatures in the movie "I Am Legend" with Will Smith (not the book). Well, without grace, that's essentially a good portrayal of what we really are, inside. God created us to be "en-graced," to cure our innate dsperate wickedness, but that does not happen until we reach the Age of Reason.
Though cute little babies lack the ability to sin, so that they are cute, they are still "incipient sin machines," without grace. They are "not-yet-switched-on" "desperately wicked sin machines."
So, Mary, so that the ovum in her reproductive tract would be "touchable" by God the Son when He became the Hypostatic Union at the moment of the Incarnation, had to be immaculately conceived.
In effect, MARY'S OWN IMMACULATE CONCEPTION IS VERIFICATION OF THE LIMBO CONCEPT.
Why Limbo? Because Limbo is a place of "respectable niceness" -- not some horrible Hell-like place, contrary to the way our medieval ancestors referred to it.
I believe that the Apostle Paul indirectly refers to Limbo when he says that he was taken up into the Third Heaven to converse with God. 2 Corinthians 12:2.
The Third Heaven would be that place of perfection where God dwells, above the Beatific Vision.
The Second Heaven would be where we will dwell below God if we are found worthy of salvation. This is where the Beatific Vision will taken place.
The First Heaven would be Limbo. It's best described as the "basement" of Heaven," I think. I figure that a person in Limbo gets about the same deal as a nice place here on Earth, so that for Paul it was "the First Heaven" -- not a bad deal!
So, your friends can relax. Their baby, and mine, are okay.