[quote="absitinvidia, post:13, topic:212394"]
The Priest stands In Persona Christi, and Christ is the groom and the Church is the bride. While it's not an actual marriage it's an icon of one. I'm using a metaphor. Let me explain.
I'm talking about the REASON Christ only chose men. I'm talking about the REASON the sacrament is only valid if it is a man. * If* the priest, the icon of Christ is male, and the Church is the bride, female, then there can simply be no ordination of women because same sex marriage is not valid. Scripture describes the relationship between Christ and his Church as a relationship between a groom and a bride. There cannot be two brides because that is not valid. At the same time Scripture describes the relationship of Christ and his Church as the relationship between the head and the body. Paul also says that the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the Church. All the sacraments are linked together, and Marriage and Holy Orders have an intimate tie through these metaphors.
In 1 Corinthians 6:18, Paul says, "Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the immoral person sins against his own body." This is in reference to sexual immorality. But remember that the Church is the body. The Church, one with Christ, is not capable of sin as Christ is not capable of sin. Just the people are. Therefore, just as the Church is not capable of bestowing the sacrament of Marriage on two people of the same sex, the Church is not capable of bestowing the sacrament of Holy Orders on a woman.
The Church has always simply stated that she cannot ordain women, that it's not within her authority, that Jesus ordained only men so we do the same, that it's a Tradition to be kept, etc. Basically, while it is enough for me to accept the word of the Church, many people get frustrated over what they think is a baseless or evasive answer, and in trying to provide them something more than, "because," this is what I have come up with
I'm not sure the Church has had to answer this question before. While the Church's explanation for why they do not do this is of course valid, many people who ask, "why," want to know the basis for the choice that Christ made, the reason why ordination is only valid for a man. Truthfully, I don't think Christ chose between ordaining women or not ordaining them. The way I see it, it was the will of God for only men to be ordained, so that's who got ordained by Christ. But there must be an underlying reason, and the absolute best I can come up with is the tie between Marriage and Holy Orders, between Christ as the groom and the Church as the bride, and the prohibition against homosexual union.
Marriage and Holy Orders are parallel vocations. In the case of these two, a man either becomes a husband and father with a wife and children, or he becomes an icon of the husband with the Church as "wife" and a spiritual father to the congregation.
Maybe the metaphor is not valid, maybe it is. I just asked a question. But I'm founding the metaphor on a metaphor already made in Scripture by St. Paul. Maybe my choice in wording in the original post was not quite right.
I have heard this explanation before, but while I am not for women priests, It seems to be lacking in one thing. if the priest is to be taking the role of Christ as man, and the Church is to be the bride of Christ, then why can men be part of the Church in the first place if the Church is a she?
i do think it has to do more with the distinctions between men and women themselves, and that the imagery between Christ and the Church is compared to a marriage rather than the other way around (although our marriages are deepened by looking at Christ and the Church)...
When religion was in the hands of women, that society was a happier place and everything tended to be more equitable. A male hierarchy makes for patristic, adversarial religions. Just look at the OT. Rape, incest, genocide, slavery are rampant. As some say, the rise of civilization has been a battle against testosterone. So why not female priests? We have female nuns, yes? I've seen some women way outperform men in similar jobs from pilot to priestess. I think it is time to reconsider.
Tuno, when religion was in the hands of women as i believe you are percieving (correct me if im wrong), a few of the so called "priestesses" were virgins, but many were moreso prostitutes. These societies also tended to still have within them patristic values... do you think that that would be considered equitable?
on the other hand, one could look at the church itself as in the hands of women in the sesne that more often than not, they are the ones who have handed on the faith to their children. enter a Catholic Church, and youre more likely to see many women and their children than men.