adam and eve question


#1

Is this still the same after Jesus came as saviour?


Genesis 3:16 ESV / 12 helpful votes

To the woman he said, “I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children. Your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you.”


The women still has child bearing pain. I should know:rolleyes:
What about the husband ruling over the wife? Did Jesus do away with this when he gave new rules to all people of the earth including Jews. If so why do we have child bearing pains???
My question from this is , what else from the old testament is relevent to us Christians


#2

pain in childbearing is due to Original Sin.


#3

[quote="jediliz, post:2, topic:304066"]
pain in childbearing is due to Original Sin.

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we also messed up when it came to living longer then 120 years....;)


#4

[quote="catholicsaint, post:1, topic:304066"]
What about the husband ruling over the wife? Did Jesus do away with this when he gave new rules to all people of the earth including Jews.

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That is very clearly explained in the letter of St. Paul to the Ephesians. The husband has a special God-given authority over the family. Remember that the relationship between the spouses is mystical in nature, as the following passage clearly explains:

"For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.” This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church.

Thus we speak of Christ as the Bridegroom (husband) and of the Church (or, also, of each of our souls) as the Bride (wife), mystically speaking.

Only under this standpoint, and noticing how much Christ the Bridegroom did for His Bride, we can understand this authority, which is meant to lead and protect, but never to humiliate or diminish.

St. Paul begins clearly by expressing the mystery of agape love: "submit to one another".

Then he goes ahead addressing the wives:

Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body ...] Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

We can clearly see the connection Christ-Husband, Church-Wife.

Now St. Paul addresses the husbands:

Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her to make her holy ...] husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies ...] After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church ...] each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself

Jesus actually fulfilled this role as He became the living Bridegroom and Head of the Church. Husbands and wives are called, today more than ever, to reflect the supernatural order and to demonstrate by their intense agape love what is meant to be a good husband and what is meant to be a good wife, in a world of darkness that is desperately trying to destroy the family and the sacrament of Matrimony.


#5

Thank you............... R C,

Yes darkness of the world is destroying the family,

Only with love can we move forward.

I have 2 children and iam a stay at home mom and i hope iam doing good by God.

i never worked i met my husband at 18 and have been married 10 years now.


#6

St. Paul said, "Husbands, love your wives..."
He should have said, "Husbands you better love your wives..."


#7

Thanks to you for your wonderful testimony of faith and for all the good you are most definitely doing for your family and for the Church, for even the tiniest, most secret act of pure love for God becomes infinitely valuable through Christ, and the whole Communion of Saints shares in its benefits in ways that will only become clear in heaven.

From the diary of St. Faustina of the Blessed Sacrament, "Divine Mercy in my soul":

"Why did you step down from your celestial abode and come to dwell among us?"

"Daughter, love brought me here and love keeps me here. If you knew what great merit and reward can be earned with a single act of pure love, you would die of joy."


#8

here we also see why men have been chosen as priests in preference or precedence to women - man represents humankind whilst woman only represents womankind and only in man can the two be one - for man carries both male and female genes whilst the woman only carries female genes - wincam


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