=arkwright;10542232]I put a question similar to this on the Ask an Apologist section and received a poor answer .
This is a question that has troubled me for quite a while , but is now troubling me seriously .
Adam and Eve sinned . They had to accept the consequences of their sin . They were expelled from the garden to live in a world where they suffered and eventually died .
My question is why do we have to suffer the consequences of the sin of Adam and Eve when we played no part in their sin ?
Think of a father who has several children . One of them brings shame on the family because of some evil he indulges in . The father feels that he has no option but to disinherit his son , banish him from the family , and hand him over to the authorities to suffer due punishment"
Isa. 55: 6-11"Seek the LORD while he may be found, call upon him while he is near; let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts; let him return to the LORD, that he may have mercy on him, and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.*** For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, says the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts"***
Isa.45: 9 "Woe to him who strives with his Maker, an earthen vessel with the potter!
Does the clay say to him who fashions it,
What are you making'? orYour work has no handles'?”
*Isa.29: 16 *” You turn things upside down! Shall the potter be regarded as the clay; that the thing made should say of its maker, "He did not make me"; or the thing formed say of him who formed it, "He has no understanding"?
Isa.64: 8 “Yet, O LORD, thou art our Father; we are the clay, and thou art our potter; we are all the work of thy hand.”
IMO:) My friend your asking the wrong question and looing at it from "bottom up- not TOP Down"
IT'S not that God HAD to; but that God's Devine Nature saw such an act as befitting the crime. Nothing in life is "free". God has every RIGHT as our Creator to demand certian things from us.
Consider God did not HAVE TO Create humanity al all:rolleyes:
Now at the same time the father does something very extraordinary . He turns towards his other children and tells them that because of the wrong-doing of their brother they too are being disinherited , banished from the family , and will suffer the same punishment as their brother , even though it was the brother and not themselves who had sinned .
Now surely we would all see this father as unjust and cruel , lacking in love .
But is this not how God has treated all human beings who have lived since the time of Adam and Eve ?
Adam and Eve sinned . They had to accept the consequences of their disobedience . But the extraordinary thing is that God has made every other human being since Adam and Eve accept the consequences of a sin which was not theirs .
Why should we live in a vale of tears , ending in death , because of a sin we never committed ?
This troubles me seriously , and seems to be leading me to a point where I have to make a decision as to whether in all conscience I can carry on believing .
Any help will be gratefully received . I thank you in anticipation .
***YOU seem to forget that God OFFERS a very easy way to corect what He ses as Justice and you see as mean, evil, bad and nasty. BAPTISM; Christian Baptism makes one NEW and perfect [until we screw up again].
IF one chooses death that is what God gives to them. IT"SMANS" choice; God ONLY affirms what we have decided our eternity shll be. Amen!***
Here's what God DESIRES
Deuteronomy 30:19 "I call heaven and earth to witness this day, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing. Choose therefore life, that both thou and thy seed may live"
And Here is What Devine Justice DEMANDS
Ecclesiasticus 15:18 "Before man is life and death, good and evil, that which he shall choose shall be given him"
So we decide; what's your choice:shrug: