American folk healing


#41

I stated, I did not go looking for this. It came to me. It was nothing that could be controlled to get further care.
The churchbhas formal trained priests for exorcisms. The goal is 1 for per diocese(?).
BUT, we have power through Gods WORD!
MARK 16: 17-18.
It is not disobedient to believe & enact these verses when confronted w snakes, poisons & Evil. The Holy Spirit is the power. It has nothing to do w us x as children of the MOST HIGH KING.
Thank You, Jesus for being w me.


#42

Father God, help your son here, on figuring his path to help this co-worker. He has a good heart & wants to serve You. He is in dangerous waters. Reiki opens other dimensions on the other side. Invitations were given, when she started that path. The WORD OF GOD IS A SWORD THAT CUTS THROUGH EVIL. MARK 16: 17-18. Put on the whole armpit of God. The Armor of God

10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God,so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.
Where two or meet together in the name of Jesus, He is also present.
In Jesus name
Amen


#43

My friend, I would say the best thing for you to do is to talk to a priest. See what he says about your healing. You can also practice to be an acupuncturist while being a mental health therapist. Acupuncturists practice herbs as well.
Also, as this is a spiritual matter, I suggest you to read a spiritual book that St. Hildegard of Bingen wrote called the Physica. She writes about natural healing in God’s way. I read her book and found myself amazed. Please know, though, that this is not scientifically proven and it will not work until God intervenes.

The ultimate suggestion I can offer you is to see a priest- as I am not really open in this field. I will be praying for you.

Pax Christi!


#44

Thank you so much, CRM. You’ve been a great help and God bless you.

An update: I spoke with my priest about my ideas of being a spiritual warrior/healer in my fiancé’s massage therapy business and he gave me his blessing. I’m limiting my Practice to praying over people in my office there. He also approved my idea of how to pray over my co worker.

As I was practicing my prayer for this Friday, the ice kept falling around me as I was doing it outside of my father’s house. I’m taking that as a sign that the demon isn’t happy with me and was trying to dissuade me.

The structure of the prayer is as follows:

Open with giving thanks to God and asking Him to forgive us our sins. Fatima Prayer.

Sub Tuum Praesidium

Asking Jesus to pour out His Precious Blood, from His Most Sacred Heart; upon us, shed for us at His Cross. Protect us from the demon’s retaliation and bind and cast away the demon to the foot of His Cross to dispose of according to His Divine Will. Please, Lord Jesus make the demon depart quietly, quickly and with out disturbance to the foot of Your Cross to judge as You see fit.

Hail Marys; as many as are needed.

Healing prayers; invoking Jesus as Lord Jesus Christ, Son of David, have mercy on us. Alongside asking Our Lady and Saint Michael the Archangel for their intercession.

Close with thanksgiving and Glory Be.

Thank you all for your prayers and support. If any of you need my prayers, I’ll be happy to do so.


#45

are you planning on practicing without a license? I believe that is illegal in the USA.


#46

No. I’ll be going to school for that and getting my license.


#47

Thank you. That was good to know.


#48

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/interelg/documents/rc_pc_interelg_doc_20030203_new-age_en.html

New age its Forbidden
2.2.3. Health: Golden living
Formal (allopathic) medicine today tends to limit itself to curing particular, isolated ailments, and fails to look at the broader picture of a person’s health: this has given rise to a fair amount of understandable dissatisfaction. Alternative therapies have gained enormously in popularity because they claim to look at the whole person and are about healing rather than curing. Holistic health, as it is known, concentrates on the important role that the mind plays in physical healing. The connection between the spiritual and the physical aspects of the person is said to be in the immune system or the Indian chakra system. In a New Age perspective, illness and suffering come from working against nature; when one is in tune with nature, one can expect a much healthier life, and even material prosperity; for some New Age healers, there should actually be no need for us to die. Developing our human potential will put us in touch with our inner divinity, and with those parts of our selves which have been alienated and suppressed. This is revealed above all in Altered States of Consciousness (ASCs), which are induced either by drugs or by various mind-expanding techniques, particularly in the context of “transpersonal psychology”. The shaman is often seen as the specialist of altered states of consciousness, one who is able to mediate between the transpersonal realms of spirits and gods and the world of humans.


#49

She needs to see a valid Catholic priest.

Think of it this way, you would not attempt to remove her appendix as you are not a surgeon. The same thing applies for attempting a spiritual process for which you have neither training nor authority.


#50

I already did suggest to her to see the priest at her local parish and she agreed to it. I know I’m not an actual exorcist; but as a prayer warrior, I do what I can and pass her along to professionals.


#51

Yes, so is the document also condemning Holistic care?


#52

I don’t think it’s condemning holistic care, per se; but the New Age approach to holistic care. If you look at Jesus’s healings in the Bible, what He required is faith and He forgave sins. Sins can be seen as spiritual wounds that need to be addressed before physical healing can take place. If you think about it; Jesus was a holistic healer: Healing soul and body together.

In my practice of healing prayer, I ask the subject if he/she believes in Jesus’ power to heal and I’ll, from now on; ask Jesus to forgive us before i do the healing prayer itself.


#53

Depending upon where you practice, you should be very cautious (to the point of avoidance) of using the description “mental health therapist”. This is a regulated profession, and requires professional licensure or certification in all States.

This role is fundamentally contradictory to a role as a professional “mental health therapist”.
According to Catholic teaching, there is nothing intrinsically wrong with any of these activities.

This is potentially not only spiritually dangerous, but involving yourself with evil influences that may extend beyond the purview of a layperson.

Lay persons can bless houses, but I am not sure what you mean by “cleansing”. If it extends into the role of an exorcist, it would be out of order.

I am curious how this would take place, on a practical level.

And how will you go about determining that?

Anyone who has this kind of ministry to the faithful should be under spiritual direction themselves. If you are not already, then you should begin as soon as possible.


#54

All of these are good points, guanophore. But, I’m going to study to be a licensed therapist; not an uneducated layman dispensing what he thinks is good advice. As for the folk healing: I’m leaving that behind to offer my services, once I’m licensed; to my diocese to help in exorcism cases. Being under a spiritual director is a good idea.

Beyond that, while I’m studying; I offer to pray over people that either ask it of me, or I offer to. Basically, I’ll be a prayer warrior. I did talk with my priest and he gave me his blessing.

My basic model is my patron saint, Saint Michael the Archangel.


#55

You will need more than his blessing. You will need regular spiritual direction.

Spiritually, of course, but your faith in God will have no influence on someone who decides to sue you. We live in a very litigious society. You can easily be sued even if you are doing everything right. This is one reason it is important not to combine these activities with anything that might be understood as the professional role of a “mental health therapist”.

If you do, then you should not call it a “practice”. It should be called a ministry. Anything called a “service” or a "practice’ will place one in a position for a lawsuit.

And no one should have a “ministry” without the support of the diocese in which he lives and provides.

It is the same for “mental health therapists”.

Why is that? I am only halfway thru the thread, so if you already answered this I will get there!

Have you considered affiliating with a local Catholic Charismatic group that can nurture a gift of healing?

One can get sued even if they are not at fault. Anyone can be sued for anything. The suit may not be granted, but one is still tied up in court, financially and vocationally, sometimes for years.


#56

I do not think you have a realistic understanding of how the Catholic Church goes about handling an exorcism…


#57

How so, Blue?


#58

I really think the only acceptable path when it comes to mental health and healing issues is to get credentials that are recognized by the church. I have trouble believing this is a genuine calling and not just a desire to do goof


#59

de exorcismis et supplicationibus quibusdam

http://www.usccb.org/prayer-and-worship/sacraments-and-sacramentals/sacramentals-blessings/exorcism.cfm


#60

That is all well and good, but under no circumstances should you try to combine the two. They are very different roles, with different obligations, ethical requirements, training and credentialing.

There is nothing wrong with this. There are many people trained in mental health therapy that choose to do this instead of providing licensed professional services.

You would be wise not to offer any "folk healing that involves “exorcism” in the diocese unless and until you are commissioned to do so by the Bishop. This is not likely to happen since it is delegated to the ordained.

This is always beneficial.

This is language that is used by professional counselors. In every part of the United States you must hold a license to have “cases” and “my Practice”. If you do not, you can be charged with practicing without a license if you do, then this activity is considered outside the scope
of practice, and you can be charged with other violations.

I think the recognition is of God given authority. Whatever issues people have with the CC, there is an intuitive understanding that the authority resides within.

If you refer to it as a “practice” you will set yourself up with legal liabilities you may come to regret.

This is a dangerous choice of words. Either you are a licensed professional with a practice, or a praying healer with a ministry.


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