=Hawkiz;12259120]What would it take for you to re-unite with the Catholic Church?
Would you need to see a move from Rome first?
One or more of the following:
- Corporate reconciliation between our communions. That is the model promoted since Vat II by popes.
- An official acceptance of the Augsburg Confession by Rome as a truly Catholic confession of the faith.
- Reconciliation and full communion between the CC and Eastern Orthodoxy, simply because it would be an undeniable and irresistible movement of the Spirit within His Church,
What specific doctrines or dogmas do you see as impediments?
Are they the ‘big 3’? Of Marian doctrines, papal infallibility and Transubstantiation?
Are there others?
I would not consider mariology and Transubstantiation part of the big three.
For me, it is particularly universal ordinary and immediate jurisdiction of the pope. All other issues for me can be linked to this one. In short, my issue is more ecclesiology than it is, for example, soteriology.
I am a amateur lay person who seeks unity among all Christians, and there is much unity among our faiths…and those in power have made attempts at reconciliation in the recent past, but fell short of making it happen…what would a lay Catholic and a lay Lutheran do to push towards greater unity?
I don’t believe they’ve fallen short. That’s sort of “glass half empty”. I believe the last 50 years have seen remarkable progress.
That said, one of the things the laity can do is develop stronger more charitable ties. Work together on common causes, such as life issues, and the health care mandates that threaten our religious liberty.
The Church has, over the years, actually responded to and changed many of Luther’s 95. The Church ‘saw the Light’ so to speak (albeit too late to bring Luther back. They snubbed him pretty badly) and adopted many changes he was clamoring to see.
Some they did, but the 95 theses, in the long run, were not the towering issue of the Reformation, at least from our view. It was the doctrine of Justification.
As for being snubbed, they were certainly poor decisions, harsh words, and lousy behavior on both sides. Maybe the best answer about what laypeople can do is forgive each other for the sins of our ancestors.
I am sincerely asking. What can a Catholic and a Luther do to bring our Churches together as one flock under one Shepherd?
Just what you are doing.
I realize full well that neither of us want to ‘give up’ our faiths, so I know the answer isn’t a simple one, but I am compelled to seek ways to bring this about.
Instead of worrying about what we give up, maybe we all could focus on what we agree on (a lot), and pray for guidance on fixing what we don’t.
Peace in Christ
And also with you.