Animals are immortal


#21

What you are saying is very Eastern. We are pure consciousness witnessing the thoughts of the intellect.


#22

How does that reconcile with a few trillion babies who can never make it past limbo?.


#23

Limbo doesn’t exist. Animals cease to exist after death.


#24

So funny how we think we can speak definitively about something we actually know nothing about.


#25

The OP has not provided a sufficient argument to posit that mind is immortal based merely on being irreducible.


#26

Baltimore Catechism 3 - Q95 & 97

“Animal cease to exist after death” - true.


#27

Prove that animals do, in fact, exist after death.


#28

Link please


#29

We cannot know either way.


#30

From what I’ve read and as far as I am concerned, they disappear into the void.

No Rainbow Bridges


#31

Then all creation is not redeemed?


#32

“Through sanctifying grace, the human soul is capable of what we call the Beatific Vision in heaven. That is, it’s capable of entering so fully into a loving union with God that we can see him and know him as he is (cf. 1 Jn 3:2).

But lower animals don’t have, by nature, that kind of soul. Because the human soul is something much higher and greater, it’s possible for humans to have a deep friendship with God in a way that other earthly creatures cannot.“

https://www.osv.com/RSS/365DaysToMercy/TabId/2752/ArtMID/21013/ArticleID/16633/Do-animals-go-to-heaven.aspx


#33

We cannot know if animals have an afterlife. I would like to think they do, however none of us can know with certainty.


#34

While I would love to see my FOXY LADY in life everlasting, I doubt she would be foremost in my mind once I could hide bodily in our LORD 'S arms!

That, rather than arguing the animal issue from either side, should be our primary focus.

ICXC NIKA


#35

Even on earth animals are not capable of experiencing God and the world in the same way humans can. That does not mean they dont exist.


#36

Prove they don’t.


#37

I can’t speak for cats, but dogs seem to know the difference between right and wrong, and the seem to know love for their human companions. Love and discernment are pretty high functions.


#38

This doesn’t seem to rule out animals being present in Heaven, just not involved in the Beatific Vision. Correct? Or is there more to it?


#39

There’s no evidence that their soul exists in Heaven after death.

However, when God creates the New Earth, they could exist again. We’ll all have new bodies.


#40

No evidence for human souls either unless you mean scripture and that opens a door:

Ecclesiastes 3:18-21 ESV
I said in my heart with regard to the children of man that God is testing them that they may see that they themselves are but beasts. For what happens to the children of man and what happens to the beasts is the same; as one dies, so dies the other. They all have the same breath, and man has no advantage over the beasts, for all is vanity. All go to one place. All are from the dust, and to dust all return. Who knows whether the spirit of man goes upward and the spirit of the beast goes down into the earth?

Revelation 5:13 ESV
And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea, and all that is in them, saying, “To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be blessing and honor and glory and might forever and ever!”

Luke 3:6 ESV
And all flesh shall see the salvation of God.

Acts 3:19-21 ESV
Repent therefore, and turn again, that your sins may be blotted out, that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, and that he may send the Christ appointed for you, Jesus, whom heaven must receive until the time for restoring all the things about which God spoke by the mouth of his holy prophets long ago.

Job 12:7-10 ESV
“But ask the beasts, and they will teach you; the birds of the heavens, and they will tell you; or the bushes of the earth, and they will teach you; and the fish of the sea will declare to you. Who among all these does not know that the hand of the Lord has done this? In his hand is the life of every living thing and the breath of all mankind.


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