Annointing of the sick-funeral mass etc


#1

What happens if a person is a devout catholic but family members and friends do not get to a priest on time for annointing of the sick? Let's say this person was very good during their life time-but has a mortal sin.

What happens if there is a very bad person, living life with mortal sin, never going to mass etc. But gets this sacrament? Is this a loophole?

What happens to person 1 if family also does not have a full funeral mass for them?

Thanks,
Mommyk


#2

God is not bound or limited by the sacraments. We pray for everyone to repent and get to heaven. So if someone in your family died without having the chance to go to confession first, please pray for them. Our prayers help release souls from purgatory.

While we may know that someone has comitted an objectively gravely sinful act, we don't know what their culpability for that act is. It is best not to speculate on the state of anyone else's soul, but to continue to pray for them in life and after their death.


#3

[quote="mommy_k, post:1, topic:306073"]
What happens if a person is a devout catholic but family members and friends do not get to a priest on time for annointing of the sick? Let's say this person was very good during their life time-but has a mortal sin.

What happens if there is a very bad person, living life with mortal sin, never going to mass etc. But gets this sacrament? Is this a loophole?

What happens to person 1 if family also does not have a full funeral mass for them?

Thanks,
Mommyk

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God's mercy is infinite. There are "no loopholes".

Remember the repentent thief on the cross and the story of the prodigal son. In the latter example, who are we in the story -- the prodigal or the older son who is upset because a party is thrown in his brother's honor for coming home and he was faithful all his life? It's something for us all to reflect on.

We do not know the ways of our Lord. That is why we pray for the dead, not just the "good ones" (however we may choose to define the term), but for the dead, period.


#4

You are asking several questions here and the answers will vary....Always keeping in mind the things mentioned in the responses above...

[quote="mommy_k, post:1, topic:306073"]
What happens if a person is a devout catholic but family members and friends do not get to a priest on time for anointing of the sick?

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Beint a "devout Catholic", such a person is most likely already in a state of grace, or at the very least in a state of repentance for anything that they might have done but not yet confessed to a priest.

In such a case, the person will be saved. After all, since in confession the priest is acting "in persona Christi", that is, we are actually confessing to Christ, it follows that if we die repentant but not having formally confessed, we will simply confess directly to Christ.

Let's say this person was very good during their life time-but has a mortal sin.

it's difficult to see this as the same person as above...since the "devout Catholic" should not have a "mortal sin" on their soul...At least not an unrepentant one...
If they have repented of the mortals sin, then my answer above suffices. If they have not repented of the mortal sin then their soul is in grave danger and, by Church teaching and the definition of mortal sin, the person would be condemned.

What happens if there is a very bad person, living life with mortal sin, never going to mass etc. But gets this sacrament? Is this a loophole?

Not a "loophole".

There are a number of factors that would play into this. What is critical is the person's true repentance. If that exists, then the sacrament can be efficacious. If not...the Sacrament will be of little help.

Peace
James


#5

[quote="mommy_k, post:1, topic:306073"]
What happens if a person is a devout catholic but family members and friends do not get to a priest on time for annointing of the sick? Let's say this person was very good during their life time-but has a mortal sin.

What happens if there is a very bad person, living life with mortal sin, never going to mass etc. But gets this sacrament? Is this a loophole?

What happens to person 1 if family also does not have a full funeral mass for them?

Thanks,
Mommyk

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Catechsim of the Catholic Church

1021 Death puts an end to human life as the time open to either accepting or rejecting the divine grace manifested in Christ.592 The New Testament speaks of judgment primarily in its aspect of the final encounter with Christ in his second coming, but also repeatedly affirms that each will be rewarded immediately after death in accordance with his works and faith. The parable of the poor man Lazarus and the words of Christ on the cross to the good thief, as well as other New Testament texts speak of a final destiny of the soul--a destiny which can be different for some and for others.593

1022 Each man receives his eternal retribution in his immortal soul at the very moment of his death, in a particular judgment that refers his life to Christ: either entrance into the blessedness of heaven-through a purification594 or immediately,595 -- or immediate and everlasting damnation.596

At the evening of life, we shall be judged on our love.597

1037 God predestines no one to go to hell;620 for this, a willful turning away from God (a mortal sin) is necessary, and persistence in it until the end. In the Eucharistic liturgy and in the daily prayers of her faithful, the Church implores the mercy of God, who does not want "any to perish, but all to come to repentance":621

Father, accept this offering
from your whole family.
Grant us your peace in this life,
save us from final damnation,
and count us among those you have chosen.622
1684 The Christian funeral is a liturgical celebration of the Church. The ministry of the Church in this instance aims at expressing efficacious communion with the deceased, at the participation in that communion of the community gathered for the funeral, and at the proclamation of eternal life to the community.


#6

Thank you all for your replies. I appreciate it very much!


#7

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