[quote="empther, post:7, topic:309332"]
Hoo boy! :shrug:
Just one more time.................
The devil didn't know Jesus was God or there would have been no temptation.
Again, the devil didn't know Jesus was God.
The devil still doesn't know Jesus was God. He offers Jesus a deal that would only interest a mere man, the following of all the peoples on earth, a kind of kingship or world influence. A divine Jesus would not be interested in that.
God cannot sin.
I have read that Augustine was of the opinion that the Devil did not know that Jesus was God at the time of the temptation (by divine intervention Jesus willed that he didn't know it), though he suspected it and that is why he says "If you are the Son of God then..."
I find a logical problem with that though, because Lucifer was there in the beginning, and Jesus was before Him and he would most certainly have known him in the beginning. The church fathers all seem to be like minded in their opinion that Lucifer did not lose any knowledge that was granted him after his fall. Therefore, he must have known who Jesus was. The demons even profess they know him to be the Christ in the gospels.
So why then does Satan say: "If you are the Son of God then..."?
Well, first off we have to understand that Jesus desired to be tempted so that he might overcome temptation just as he died to overcome death. So Jesus ALLOWED himself to be tempted. We also need to know that the Devil desired for him to be tempted, because the devil had no power over him.
So when Jesus allowed himself to get hungry, this put him in a weakened state, and opened the door for the devil to come and tempt him, but the only way the devil could tempt him is by an outward assault (because it was not in the nature of Christ to sin). The devil desires to share an equality with God, and so the first temptation is an attempt to get God to submit to his human desire to eat and stop the suffering he was undergoing (to acknowledge that the suffering of man is too great and is an injustice) . The second attempt was a futile attempt to use God's own words against him. The last attempt was an attempt at a sort of truce, that if God would only submit to Lucifer's desire, it would bring about peace. Jesus thwarted his every advance, and the devil withdrew to await a better moment when he could get God to see things his way.
The devil is an accuser, and being at war with God and all of creation, said "If you are the Son of God then..." as a way of accusing Him. Being a liar himself and the father of lies, he accuses all, finding fault in all, because he is not permitted to have what he desires. If he stood in the heavens in the presence of God and boldly accused God (see Job), then he certainly would stand and accuse Jesus.
It is my opinion, that after failing to get God to see things his way by assaulting him with suffering and every kind of temptation, Satan did not give up. He sought to make him suffer and put him to death, hoping that in an even more weakened state, God would certainly see it his way. For he knew full well that God had come down from the heavens and became man, and would allow himself to suffer and even die for us. This is why they said to him "If you are the Son of God then come down from the cross.", because certainly he could have. For the people that said this, they desired the proof because Satan put this in their minds (despite all the miracles he got them to doubt it). As for Satan, he needed no such proof, but so that we might know that Jesus' suffering and death were by the hand of Satan, they were tempted into saying it. He thought that if God saw how men are made to suffer and die, God would give in to him and give him what he desires. But God's plan for us was to overcome it and to show us that suffering and death are a Divine justice, and that by dying for us he paid the debt for us so that now we can be saved. In his lust for what he desires, Satan does not care about Gods plans for us, he only cares about his desires and what he wants. Therefore, he was not concerned about murdering Jesus or what that would bring about for us. He causes all of creation to suffer because he is angry over not being able to get what he desires.
Of course, as I have stated, this is only my opinion. So I'm not looking to convince you of anything, I am just sharing my thoughts with you.