Any books out there you would reccomend about combat (particularly fighter vs. fighter dogfighting)

I'm looking for some books, movies, series, anime, etc. about people who fight in wars of now and days past.

More interested in the affect of war, how it changes someone, its realities, relationships, etc. with some action in it too. (Though one of my favorites, The Things We Carry by Tim O'Brien, has barely any fighting at all :thumbsup:)

Any suggestions?

Read and research everything you can find by and about John Boyd.

Also, Chuck Yeager

Also:

amazon.com/Price-Vigilance-Larry-Tart/dp/0804119112

Then go here:

amazon.com/Thud-Ridge-Thunderchief-missions-Vietnam/dp/0859791165

and also scroll down; what you find will lead you to dozens of other relevant books.

There are a LOT of books about John Boyd. Here is just one:

amazon.com/Boyd-Fighter-Pilot-Who-Changed/dp/0316796883/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1267932285&sr=1-1

Not aerial combat, but excellent and reflective:

amazon.com/We-Were-Soldiers-Once-Young/dp/034547581X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1267932427&sr=1-1

One of the hero soldiers from that book was also a hero later on in life at the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001: Rick Rescorla

A book review:

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A Book recommended to all by George Hughes, Author of “Always a Soldier”, December 6, 2009
By George Hughes - See all my reviews
I was an Officer Candidate School (OCS 4-65) classmate of Rick Rescorla, Joe Marm, Henry Herrick, Larry Hess , Robert Taft, and later became friends with many others written about in this book. I was priviledged to serve with the 1/7th Cavalry along side of the survivors of the Ia Drang fight as I arrived in April 1966 as a replacement. I continue to maintain contact with many of them at reunions.

It is almost impossible to relay the full horrors of combat into words, but Joe Galloway (who was there) definitely gave his best shot at it. I would highly recommend this book to anyone who wishes to share some of the memories and feeling of our United States fighting forces. The men in this fight conducted themselves in the highest degree of valor and dedication to their fellow soldiers.

To learn more about Rick Rescorla (pictured on the cover), I recommend the book “Heart of a Soldier” which portrays his entire life. Knowing what kind of a man Rick was, it was no surprise to me when I found out he had given up his life to save so many on 9/11

As an MMA trainer and fighter by profession, I still find it odd how some fascinate them selves with combat. In my opinion Vince Flynn makes the very best modern warfare novels. No dogfights though.

Samurai by Saburo Sakai gives the point of view of a Japanese fighter ace. I thought it was a good read back in high school; would like to get another copy to add to my WWII collection, but haven’t gotten around to it yet.

DaveBj

sven hassel. He was a soldier in the german army during ww2. Excellent set of books

As you know, former President George Herbert Walker Bush, father of former President George W. Bush, was a U.S. Navy pilot during World War II. He flew Grumman Avenger torpedo bombers from an aircraft carrier in combat. He was the youngest Navy pilot and once said in passing that he was the sole surviving pilot in his squadron. [The rest were killed in action.]

One day, I was visiting the U.S.S. Intrepid, an Essex-class aircraft carrier, which is a museum. On the hangar deck there was/is a perfectly restored Avenger.

A small plaque said that * 13,000 of these planes were built.

I wondered for a long time why so many were built. We only had a relatively small number of aircraft carriers.

A few years later, I was reading some book or article [can’t find it anymore] that during World War II, the loss rate for carrier-based aircraft was something like 10% per week and the loss rate for carrier-based pilots was something like 10% per month. I don’t recall the exact numbers, so don’t quote me exactly, but the number was totally shocking to me. And it explained why we built so many carrier-based planes: the loss rates were staggering!

I guess a lot of pilots ran out of fuel before they could find the carrier on the return from their missions and crashed in the ocean and were lost.

In the air war over Europe, the loss rate PER MISSION could be 6% or 10% of the planes that took off! There were ten men on each bomber! During WW2, the 8th Air Force had the highest loss rate of any unit [possibly excepting the German U-Boat crews that lost 75% of their total number].

There were times when the U.S. Army Air Corps ran out of bombers and missions had to be suspended until more planes could be ferried over from the United States.

Attrition among German fighter pilots was so high, that by the time the D-Day invasion of Normandy took place, there were very few German planes available to oppose the landings.

Anyway, you need to keep in mind these unromanticized numbers.

[Perhaps as a research project, you could search around for the actual numbers to verify the order of magnitude figures I recall from my previous reading.]*

To Fly and Fight by Col. Clarence Anderson. Despite being an exceptional narrative of WWII, one of Anderson's dogfights was featured on the premiere of the History Channel show "Dogfights" I've meet him in person and he's the epitome of the American fighter pilot.

Thanks to all who commented! I’ll be looking into these books.

As for my interest in combat, I happen to be in the armed services at the moment and always dreamt of becoming a pilot, though I kind of doubt I can make it to become one.

To Monte RCMS: I’ll look into it, though I remember reading from somewhere that the Allies were at a disadvantage in the air compared to the Axis early in WW2. Also, I’ve heard from somewhere that, early in the war, Bombers would fly off into sorties without escorts with the thinking that their onboard machine guns would protect them.

That didn’t turn out to be the case.

To Seekingfaith: Will look into Col. Clarence Anderson. Man, I haven’t watched Dogfights in a very long while.

Again, thanks everyone!

Vince Flynn doesn’t WRITE war novels. He’s the author the the Mitch Rapp CIA thrillers.

Dale Brown seems to think air power is the only military branch that matters much. If you like air combat stories, try him. But he’s more a bomber guy than fighters.

Older Larry Bond stuff was quite good and older Harold Coyle too. Both their newer works tend more towards characters and relationships and less plot action.

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