Anybody here do yoga exercises?


#232

The Churches teaches these are immoral, making it a bad comparison, and you are just begging the question using it. The comparison is only valid if yoga (in all its forms) are evil, and thus the comparison cannot be used to argue that yoga is evil.

The Church does not teach this, given the last qualifier.


#233

I would rather say it is begging the question, a logical fallacy that does no one any good. The application of the Scripture to the topic assumes a stance it tries to prove. It is evidence for nothing.


#234

On another thread, not too long ago, we were told that a “prominent exorcist” has decreed that those who practice yoga or read fantasy books (this second one being quite vague) open themselves up to demonic possession… sometimes I feel like I’m on a fundamentalist Baptist forum, of the variety who believe Rock n’ Roll music was concocted by Satan himself, rather than a Catholic forum.


#235

Hi
Hope you realize the facts in the very words of Pope Emeritus, everyone knows who he is and understand his authority, when he was Perfect of Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. If you still turn a blind eye, you have to be responsible to own yourself, instead of beating round the bush, and posting absurd reply’s which only show your folly.

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/interelg/documents/rc_pc_interelg_doc_20030203_new-age_en.html#5

The Roman Catholic Church is very clear on yoga, the pontifical document born from a joint effort of the Pontifical Council for Culture and the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue: Jesus Christ the Bearer of the Water of Life. It came to be under then Cardinal Ratzinger’s (now Pope Emeritus) points about the dangers though many might not have heard of it, and it is absolutely fascinating.
From section 2.1: “Some of the traditions which flow into New Age are: ancient Egyptian occult practices, Cabbalism, early Christian gnosticism, Sufism, the lore of the Druids, Celtic Christianity, mediaeval alchemy, Renaissance hermeticism, Zen Buddhism, Yoga and so on.”(15)
And again in section 2.134:

This is the closest found in the Catholic Church teaching about dangers of yoga cannot get better than that!


#236

Hi Shakuachi ,i posted as many articles as possible,was only trying to make clear the dangers of yoga,which the Catholic Church teaches,each individual has their own free will to do,i apologizes if you thing otherwise, God Bless

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/interelg/documents/rc_pc_interelg_doc_20030203_new-age_en.html#5

The Roman Catholic Church is very clear on yoga, the pontifical document born from a joint effort of the Pontifical Council for Culture and the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue: Jesus Christ the Bearer of the Water of Life. It came to be under then Cardinal Ratzinger’s (now Pope Emeritus) points about the dangers though many might not have heard of it, and it is absolutely fascinating.
From section 2.1: “Some of the traditions which flow into New Age are: ancient Egyptian occult practices, Cabbalism, early Christian gnosticism, Sufism, the lore of the Druids, Celtic Christianity, mediaeval alchemy, Renaissance hermeticism, Zen Buddhism, Yoga and so on.”(15)
And again in section 2.134:


#237

I am familiar with the document and appreciate its care. I think the main take away needs to be summarized to avoid such a facile discounting of what might seem too foreign and threatening to some:

6.2. Practical steps

First of all, it is worth saying once again that not everyone or everything in the broad sweep of New Age is linked to the theories of the movement in the same ways. Likewise, the label itself is often misapplied or extended to phenomena which can be categorised in other ways. The term New Age has even been abused to demonise people and practices. It is essential to see whether phenomena linked to this movement, however loosely, reflect or conflict with a Christian vision of God, the human person and the world. The mere use of the term New Age in itself means little, if anything. The relationship of the person, group, practice or commodity to the central tenets of Christianity is what counts.

The following questions may be the easiest key to evaluating some of the central elements of New Age thought and practice from a Christian standpoint. “New Age” refers to the ideas which circulate about God, the human being and the world, the people with whom Christians may have conversations on religious matters, the publicity material for meditation groups, therapies and the like, explicit statements on religion and so on. Some of these questions applied to people and ideas not explicitly labelled New Age would reveal further unnamed or unacknowledged links with the whole New Age atmosphere.

Is God a being with whom we have a relationship or something to be used or a force to be harnessed?

Is there just one Jesus Christ, or are there thousands of Christs?

The human being: is there one universal being or are there many individuals?

Do we save ourselves or is salvation a free gift from God?

Do we invent truth or do we embrace it?

Prayer and meditation: are we talking to ourselves or to God?

Are we tempted to deny sin or do we accept that there is such a thing?

Are we encouraged to reject or accept suffering and death?

Is social commitment something shirked or positively sought after?

Is our future in the stars or do we help to construct it?


#238

I do appreciate your insights,i’ll like to go by the Catholic Teaching,Though the church doesn’t make explicit explanations,but it does mention them ,and cautions its faithful to refrain from yoga,and others similarities which flow into the New Age. It is also possible that the Vatican might address a general subject pertaining to the books; for example, it might address the topic of exposing children to themes of witchcraft in literature, without specifically mentioning Harry Potter,like wise new age as in yoga.

Therefore, if you wanted to argue that technically, the Vatican has not formally condemned the Harry Potter books, then you would be on pretty solid ground factually speaking. But you would be somewhat disingenuous, much as if you argued that it hasn’t formally condemned The satanic books and therefore it is good to read .no As both the popes spoke negatively about yoga ,so does the present Pope Francis,its clear indication the Catholics should avoid yoga,but as i said before, its their individual choice.God Bless


#239

Do you consider Lord of The Rings as also “Satanic”?

Or about burning Non-Catholic incense at home?


#240

I think you have confused me with someone else. I have linked him twice. His warning is of yoga as a spiritual exercise for enlightenment. That is clear in the context, not the physical movements. That is something that keeps getting added on here. Every Catholic that does yoga and claims it is just exercise should read this document and discern if it is just exercise they are doing, something the Catholic Church has never condemned, or a spiritual exercise aimed at some enlightenment.

Then honor those here who are doing otherwise, but not what you would do.

Again, not the topic. Since those threads keep getting shut down because of lack of charity, it probably is best not to keep injecting it here.


#241

I don’t know… I think your post was a little too short. :neutral_face:


#242

I don’t really have a lot more to say. In fact, I think the well has run dry.

Well, one other thing that I did bring up. This notion that an empty mind is vulnerable to demonic invasion. That is so wrong. Just think of your most sacred moments. If there is awe, if there is wonder, there is often just a wordless, thoughtless, receptivity to the present moment and God’s filling it. At least it has been that way for me, especially out in nature. Inner stillness makes way for Christ. It should not be feared. Too often we distract ourselves with our thoughts.


#243

Fear not. There is always fracking.


#244

You rascal, you! Now we are to proceed to centering prayer is it!? :slightly_smiling_face:


#245

No. Too many words.


#246

You like earthquakes?


#247

Guess who started this thread:


#248

Most religions have a belief in demons. It would be odd for a religion promoted by demons to also then warn of them and speak of them in a negative way.

I believe they certainly exist and try to influence our behaviors but yoga is hardly one of their tools. My concern is more with things like mass shootings and addictions and maybe more subtle things like fear, hatred, anxiety, anger, etc. Like the 7 deadly sins, lets look at indicators rather than just projecting our opinions.

Yoga and meditation have helped me though my most difficult times. I am a man of faith but also a man of science and evidence. My faith is based on my interpretation of evidence. And most published studies I have seen report that yoga and mindfulness meditation, for that matter, have an assuaging effect on problems like anxiety and depression


#249

I no longer practice yoga once I truly took the time to read up on it. I just rather be safe than sorry and don’t want to be unknowingly worshiping any gods…even if there are no chants to go along with it. I’ve decided to take up Pilates instead.


#250

You absolutely should not practice yoga if you don’t feel comfortable with it. BUT - worship is a deliberate act. You can’t “accidentally” worship something.


#251

I was told as Catholic’s we should stay away from yoga because it is of the Hindu religion and if we practice it it could pull us that way. There are other exercises we could do to get fit.


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