[quote=Sorbetto]Today at work I was talking to a coworker who’s a Jehovah Witness and got into a discussion about his religion. He spoke an awful LOT…I barely had time to get a word in and, besides, I’m not Catholic yet and am still familiarizing myself. So this was particularly interesting to me, and I guess it could be considered my first “apologetics” experience. He said a few things, particularly against the Catholic Church, but some just generally:
- “Jesus said call no other man Father, and priests and the Pope are called that.”
Read the passage in context. Christ was telling the Pharisees that because of the way they used the word. They were being proud. In fact the apostles themselves called themselves the ‘fathers’ of their disciples. 1 Cor. 4:15, Paul refers to himself as ‘father’ of the Church in Corinth. Many people use the word ‘teacher’, or ‘bible teacher’ or ‘sunday school teacher’…and how many people do you know who call their biological father anything other than father, dad, daddy? This is a misunderstanding of the context of the scripture reading.
- “In the Bible it says we are ‘living souls’…when we die we are just dead, until Armageddon, when the faithful will be raised from the dead.” (He was saying there is no soul, the man IS the soul, and the only heaven is for the kingdom/government of God or something.)
A soul cannot die, because a soul has no physical parts. A soul is not limited by our human concept of space and time. Death of the body is esentially physical…it consists of the breakup of physical parts. A soul has no physical parts and therefore cannot die. In Genesis we are told God made man in his image. God is pure spirit. God cannot die, therefore, our spirit is not capable of dying. in 1 Samuel, Samuel appeared to Saul after his death, proving that his soul did not die. Mt. 10:28 tells us not to fear man, because a man cannot kill our soul, but only the body. Mt. 17:1-8 tells us that Moses appeared to Christ, and others saw him as well, so his soul wasn’t in some deep sleep as JW"s contend. Lk 16 tells us of Lazarus, who’s soul wasn’ t sleeping but was conscience in the next world. Rev. 6:9-10 shows us the vision of the souls who pray in heaven. They are not asleep.
- “Jesus said we are all brothers and we all must become children and that’s why we don’t have anything like the Pope or priests who try to be so holy and all these people making a big deal out of them.”
Christ said “Thou art Peter and upon this rock I will build my Church and the gates of Hades will not prevail.” Mt. 16:18. He also said to Peter “Peter, do you love me…feed my sheep…” (paraphrased). Christ clearly set up a priesthood, as we are told of Bishops and priests in the NT after the death of Christ. So their statement isn’t Biblical.
- “If Catholics really believed in heaven, why are they so sad the Pope is gone? If he went to heaven, he is in a better place.” (Argument against heaven/soul I guess)
We are sad because the world has lost a truly holy man. Not that he’s not going ot heaven…for all we know he may already be there. We are jubilant that he is now able to continue to pray for us here on earth, and to pray for the Church, as we know he will. All men are sad when a loved one dies…and this Pope was loved by the world (proven by the masses in Rome at his funeral and the many world leaders.).
This is all paraphrased but generally this is what he was trying to say. He quoted Revelation a LOT and quoted a LOT of scripture.
How would you defend the faith against these things? :whacky:
Also, any comments regarding the Jehovah Witness faith (its peculariarities, reasons why it is invalid, anything you know) would be appreciated.
The Jehovah Witnesses do not believe in the Divinity of Christ. They believe he was only a prophet. So they cannot hardly be called Christians.