So anyone can step up and proclaim what His word says and be following in the apostle’s footsteps. What do we do when such people teach contradicting doctrines? How do we know which one is right? There were doctrinal disputes among Christians even when the apostles were alive. How do we know who has the correct apostolic teaching?
This argument works both ways: churches which claim to be the one true church teach contradictory things… One still has to make a fallible decision on which church to follow and accept. Claiming to follow an infallible church gives no more certainty, as the decision to follow it was fallible, to quote Dr White there.
The Bible does not say infants should not be baptized. It says entire houisehold were baptized. In the year 100 there are letters from bishops who were taught directly by apostles proclaiming the Church baptizes babies. If you decide in the year 1900 this is wrong, it should be stopped and everything all Christians always did, not only Catholics, but all Protesstants up till that time is declared wrong. Jesus promised his Church’s doctrine would be true untilk the end of time.
Household baptism is an endless debate i find… But on this 100AD letter speaking of infant baptism; which one? I’m aware of the odd bit in Irenaus and Origen, but nothing prior to this?
Entire households were baptized almost three hundred years BEFORE the Church decided what books should be included in the New Testament. What would you have done to determine your doctrine in the year 200 or 325 AD? Do you realize that the New Testament was declared in 396 by bishops of the Catholic Church with the pope?
As Protestants we see more of a “receiving” of books rather than a “declaring” of them. I recommend “The Heresy of Orthodoxy” on this one for a Protestant perspective on this topic.
Those who received their faith from the apostles baptized babies long before the New Testament was canonized. Acts says entire households (families) were baptized. It does not say entire households except for the children. Do households normally have people of all ages.
Again the household thing is generally quite an endless debate, Karl Barth has a very interesting essay on it simply called “The teaching of the church regarding baptism” which I would recommend. But I must stand with Itwin, the repent and be baptised statements sway it for me.
We know there are false prophets. How do we know which one’s are the real deal and which are false? Please do not say if they agree with scripture. In the Bible it was prophesied that a famine was coming and people should store food. It happened. Suppose someone said that again today. I have Pentecostal firends whose entire congregations did this. They all were getting ready for the tribulation. They bought flour mills and stored up diapers and food. That was thirty years ago. There was nothing in the Bible to be able to know this would or would not happen. The guy who claimed the world was ending last year claimed to be a prophet. You just can not say if someone functions as a prophet or apostle that makes him one.
Well scripture is the rule of faith and the infallible guide… Can people get stuff wrong? Indeed they can. Doesn’t mean anything is wrong with the guide. Plus with respect sir, there is a slight misunderstanding of what sola scriptura is in this paragraph.
Does that mean they do not have unity in faith?
Is the NT materially sufficient or is tradition and scripture more a partim partim thing?
If two Catholics don’t agree on this, does that mean they don’t have unity in the faith? Or a legitimate differing view on something? Same thing with two Catholics, one who may hold more Thomist views on predestination, another Molinist views on the same topic. Are they no longer united?