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God has that authority, and he has given us his word to be a standard, rule, and law. Those who proclaim what his word says are following in the apostle's footsteps.
So anyone can step up and proclaim what His word says and be following in the apostle's footsteps. What do we do when such people teach contradicting doctrines? How do we know which one is right? There were doctrinal disputes among Christians even when the apostles were alive. How do we know who has the correct apostolic teaching?
Exactly, the Bible says nothing about infant baptism. It doesn't really matter how long the Catholic Church has been doing something.
Do you see that with this view there can never be any settled doctrine? The Bible says nothing that forbids polygamy, but the Church has said we must be monogamous. You are saying the Church, including your ownj, has no authority to teach any consistent doctrine. If someone at any time decides it is wrong or disagrees with it, they can proclaim something different.
The Bible does not say infants should not be baptized. It says entire houisehold were baptized. In the year 100 there are letters from bishops who were taught directly by apostles proclaiming the Church baptizes babies. If you decide in the year 1900 this is wrong, it should be stopped and everything all Christians always did, not only Catholics, but all Protesstants up till that time is declared wrong. Jesus promised his Church's doctrine would be true untilk the end of time.
What matters to Pentecostals and other evangelicals is that we find no evidence of it in the Bible.
Entire households were baptized almost three hundred years BEFORE the Church decided what books should be included in the New Testament. What would you have done to determine your doctrine in the year 200 or 325 AD? Do you realize that the New Testament was declared in 396 by bishops of the Catholic Church with the pope? The same men who said infants should be baptized, there are seven sacraments, we should pray for souls of the dead, and to the saints. If they got all that stuff wrong, why would you accept the Bible from them. Did they get lucky and finally get something right, or did the Holy Spirit inspire them on scripture, but allow them to get the rest of their doctrine wrong? Did Jesus's promise in scripture to send the Holy Spirit to lead His Church into ALL truth fail, but hold up when it came to selecting which writings are scripture?
There is no evidence that you can't have three wives in scripture.
What we find in the Bible is the call to "repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit" (Acts 2:38). The "apostolic" teaching is for believers capable of repenting of sins to be baptized. Therefore, to us, infant baptism is a post-biblical practice that was not part of the apostolic teaching.
Those who received their faith from the apostles baptized babies long before the New Testament was canonized. Acts says entire households (families) were baptized. It does not say entire households except for the children. Do households normally have people of all ages.
Would you naturally assume that when someone says an entire family wenty on vacation the kids went along?
We know what the Bible says about those gifts and ministries. To know who is an apostle, we look at what an apostle does in scripture. If it quacks like a duck . . . Similarly, if someone functions as an apostle then they are an apostle. If someone functions as a prophet then they are a prophet. And so on.
We know there are false prophets. How do we know which one's are the real deal and which are false? Please do not say if they agree with scripture. In the Bible it was prophesied that a famine was coming and people should store food. It happened. Suppose someone said that again today. I have Pentecostal firends whose entire congregations did this. They all were getting ready for the tribulation. They bought flour mills and stored up diapers and food. That was thirty years ago. There was nothing in the Bible to be able to know this would or would not happen. The guy who claimed the world was ending last year claimed to be a prophet. You just can not say if someone functions as a prophet or apostle that makes him one.
Different Pentecostal/charismatic groups have different ecclesiologies.
Does that mean they do not have unity in faith?
Nevertheless, there are groups today in the Pentecostal/charismatic world who do entitle certain persons "apostle." Presumably, these people would possess much power and respect among their religious communities.
Who gives this title? Who says Jim is an apostle in the Church? Does that title give Jim the authority to proclaim doctrine, interpret the scripture, have what he teaches be believed?