Are all type of gambling sinful


#1

Say like you gamble vs someone online , for example Fifa 13 ultimate team its when you gain up coins to make your dream team. Say i gamble someone if i win he gives me 5,000 coins or he gives me a special player he has in his team and I do the same if I lose . Is that sinful?


#2

Gambling per se is not sinful. It can become sinful in a particular case if it takes away you from your responsibilities, though. If it means you take money that was meant for food or housing or medical expenses (or some other necessity), then it may be sinful for you. If it is extra money that might be set aside for entertainment (after all bills and expenses are paid), and you stop gambling once that money runs out, then it is not sinful.


#3

No not sinful when used with the virtue of temperance :thumbsup:


#4

Have you made an appointment with your priest yet????


#5

i would have to say that this is sinful, because money is the root of all evil.


#6

[quote="dandy1822, post:5, topic:323778"]
i would have to say that this is sinful, because money is the root of all evil.

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Its the love of money that is the root of all evil. :p :) :shrug:


#7

Gambling is not sinful in and of itself. However, I do think that throwing away money that could be better put to use such as donating to worthy causes, helping our brothers and sisters in need, supplying necessities such as food, shelter and clothing for those who cannot help themselves. I know there are people in the world literally starving or suffering for want of basic medical services so I do have a hard time watching someone throw money away. Sinful? Compulsive gamblers are everywhere. If you think you might have a problem in this regard, you probably do.


#8

Sorry to throw a wrench in things. Gambling is sinful. The basic concept is one person is experiencing gain at the cost of another person (or entity) without fruitful work involved. For one person to win another has to lose.

In industry one person provides services for goods from another as in an employer / employee relationship. The employer, while experiencing gain, so does the employee. The employee is just adding value by his labor in exchange for the work.

In the stock market people are investing capital in order to provide opportunity for a business to provide further goods and services to society as a whole. While one may lose money, one must not lose money for another to gain. While there are situations where one must lose for another to gain (ie short selling), they are not the norm and should probably not be engaged in as these take advantage of someones misfortune.

Basically we need to ask if this is, or can be, a win / win situation. If not, it should probably be left to others.


#9

I don't think so, I tend to agree with those who say that it depends on your financial situations. Plus, to the OP, you are talking about games where no real money is involved aren't you? But, couldn't those games themselves cause you to sin by doing that too much instead of other things you are suppose to be doing. (for that matter, wouldn't being on here too much instead of doing my dishes.) :D
Then also, what about Bingo? That wouldn't be sinful in and of itself as the money, at least from Catholic involved one's, goes to charity, doesn't it? (Now the same would apply if you were involved in Bingo to the extent that you used your families food money, etc...in playing it.)


#10

[quote="ChurchSoldier, post:8, topic:323778"]
Sorry to throw a wrench in things. Gambling is sinful. The basic concept is one person is experiencing gain at the cost of another person (or entity) without fruitful work involved. For one person to win another has to lose.

In industry one person provides services for goods from another as in an employer / employee relationship. The employer, while experiencing gain, so does the employee. The employee is just adding value by his labor in exchange for the work.

In the stock market people are investing capital in order to provide opportunity for a business to provide further goods and services to society as a whole. While one may lose money, one must not lose money for another to gain. While there are situations where one must lose for another to gain (ie short selling), they are not the norm and should probably not be engaged in as these take advantage of someones misfortune.

Basically we need to ask if this is, or can be, a win / win situation. If not, it should probably be left to others.

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When we play baseball or basketball, it involves someone losing in order for someone else to win also. I don't think we want to go so far as to say thats sinful now. And in baseball when you lose you can lose self esteem, not just some material thing like money. I would say someones self esteem is more valuable than money personally. There's almost nothing in life that's a win win for everyone.

Obviously, as with anything, we shouldn't get obsessed or over the top, but no one is forced to gamble, so it seems a little harsh to say its taking advantage of their misfortune doesn't it? When I play poker with my cousins, I almost always lose! :D But I never feel unjustly wronged or cheated. It was my choice to spend my two dollars that I earned on a game I probably wouldn't get anything back on. It's not taking advantage of my misfortune for them to win. If I lost that money from circumstances out of my control and they were trying to squeeze money out of me still, that would be different. But I can't lose anymore than I decide to pay myself.

As long as money doesn't become the center of our lives, why should it be wrong to sometimes spend it on silly things like bingo or poker or horse races? :) If someone is easily overcome by money, then they probably should avoid it. But that's why we should exercise prudence. Not just ban it all together.

To the OP

Just keep it within reason. :) The Church doesn't condemn gambling indiscriminately, so your good. :thumbsup::


#11

OP, the school system is failing you. Your grammer and punctuation suk. Maybe thats a sin, huh?!


#12

Others should be aware that the OP is young and suffers from scrupulosity. Debating the finer points of Catholic teaching regarding gambling is likely to do the OP much more harm than good. So please save it for another thread.

The OP isn't even talking about real money but only "currency" within a video game. That's not even gambling.


#13

Oh, the irony!


#14

Interesting topic. On a side note, it was common practice for parishes to invite children to throw dice for used Bibles. Note that there was no stake, and that this process prevents preference based on status or income.

Personally, I dislike gambling, especially the seedy nature of the places where it takes place. In Bedford (UK) we have loads of betting 'shops', and criminals love to use them to meet in or near. A person may have the discipline to gamble responsibly, but they end up supporting an institution in whose interest it is to promote gambling. Tossing a few leaflets about gambling addiction around isn't going to prevent it from occuring.

I wouldn't outlaw it either. Apart from it being possible to gamble responsibly, just like drinking alchohol, the alternatives to regulated establishments are too horrible to consider.

I can see how it might appeal to some to place a bet on your favourite team to win, but some see it as a means to gain money, which is foolish.

#15

if you take a look at all the gambling facilities all over the world and realize

that they are not providing a service for free. one should realize that there

are better spend your money and not get involved in an addiction potential.

most of the people that go that type of place are losers.


#16

Coming close to being off topic in quoting a secular source, I still can't resist.

Paraphrasing Mark Twain, he said "...there are only two times when a person shouldn't gamble. The first is when he can't afford it. The second is when he can."

I have always liked that; possibly because I'm a sore loser by nature. I don't have a moral objection to modest gambling. But I once lost an entire two dollars in a slot machine and got so angry at my own stupidity that I never gambled again. :) After all, that two dollars would have bought a hamburger!


#17

As a former gambler, I have to admit that it felt sinful to me. I'm not saying it's a sin, but when I was at the depth of my gambling problem, I was throwing away money that I should have been using to pay household expenses, and that is sinful in my book. The gambling, like any other addiction, controlled me. Again, that's not to say that someone who likes to go to a casino and spend a pre-set sum of money within their budget is committing a sin. I think that any action that controls you, instead of you controlling it, is sinful. I'm proud to say that I have not gambled since 11/2/12 :-) It's been a battle at times, but prayer, the support of my family, and taking it one day at a time are what get
me through each day.


#18

The biggest sin about gambling is that I have yet to win the lottery. :mad:

The $2 for a Powerball ticket is a surcharge on wild dreams. :p


#19

[quote="ChurchSoldier, post:8, topic:323778"]
Sorry to throw a wrench in things. Gambling is sinful. The basic concept is one person is experiencing gain at the cost of another person (or entity) without fruitful work involved. For one person to win another has to lose.

In industry one person provides services for goods from another as in an employer / employee relationship. The employer, while experiencing gain, so does the employee. The employee is just adding value by his labor in exchange for the work.

In the stock market people are investing capital in order to provide opportunity for a business to provide further goods and services to society as a whole. While one may lose money, one must not lose money for another to gain. While there are situations where one must lose for another to gain (ie short selling), they are not the norm and should probably not be engaged in as these take advantage of someones misfortune.

Basically we need to ask if this is, or can be, a win / win situation. If not, it should probably be left to others.

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so for you, sin has some kind of an economic-utilitarian definition, apparently applying only to the winners. this is really out in left field.


#20

Non Catholic Christians can be extreme and denounce all gambling but the Catholic church is moderate and allows some for entertainment providing we still care for our more important needs.

Like alcohol people can get burnt badly from gambling taking it way out of control losing their life savings ,their familes and even their own lives .

For anyone interested in the Problem Gambling group to help with prayers or the Rosary for compulsive gamblers please see the link in my signature.Thanks


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